Poll: What do you have?

[JRutledge]

I have an issue that you are saying there was an obvious travel. When you do not see the ball, how do you know if there is control or there is not a bobble. It is not proper to call a travel just on the basis of someone's feet.

I think I have stated what my position on this contact was enough already.

Peace

[Adam]

Rut, to me, it "looks" like a travel before he dribbles. After he picks up the dribble, he travels again; this time we see the ball well enough for the call. Traveling was obviously not a priority for the officials here, as the white player did it on the put-back attempt.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

Rut, to me, it "looks" like a travel before he dribbles. After he picks up the dribble, he travels again; this time we see the ball well enough for the call. Traveling was obviously not a priority for the officials here, as the white player did it on the put-back attempt.

It is probably a travel. But you cannot see the ball at all. And I would hope that people are not calling travels on what they think. The official has a clearly view of the ball than we do and he did not call anything. It is very possible he missed it, but not clear based on the angle we are shown. That is all I am saying.

Peace

[JugglingReferee]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

Rut, to me, it "looks" like a travel before he dribbles. After he picks up the dribble, he travels again; this time we see the ball well enough for the call. Traveling was obviously not a priority for the officials here, as the white player did it on the put-back attempt.

I didn't know this was an NBE game!

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

I have an issue that you are saying there was an obvious travel. When you do not see the ball, how do you know if there is control or there is not a bobble. It is not proper to call a travel just on the basis of someone's feet.

I think I have stated what my position on this contact was enough already.

Peace

I think the guy actually travels twice. When he catches the ball he obviously shuffles his feet, but you can't see the ball at this point, so who knows? But when he turns toward the camera, clearly holding the ball, he steps into the lane with his right foot followed by his left foot, which also returns to the floor before the shot.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by just another ref

I think the guy actually travels twice. When he catches the ball he obviously shuffles his feet, but you can't see the ball at this point, so who knows? But when he turns toward the camera, clearly holding the ball, he steps into the lane with his right foot followed by his left foot, which also returns to the floor before the shot.

That's what I saw.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by just another ref

I think the guy actually travels twice. When he catches the ball he obviously shuffles his feet, but you can't see the ball at this point, so who knows? But when he turns toward the camera, clearly holding the ball, he steps into the lane with his right foot followed by his left foot, which also returns to the floor before the shot.

When I think I see a travel, I do not make any call. I only call what I see clearly as a travel. That is my basic philosophy on calling travels. At least for me that works.

Peace

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

When I think I see a travel, I do not make any call. I only call what I see clearly as a travel. That is my basic philosophy on calling travels. At least for me that works.

Peace

Well if, with the chance to look at this play repeatedly on tape, you can't clearly see a travel, then apparently you don't call many.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by just another ref

Well if, with the chance to look at this play repeatedly on tape, you can't clearly see a travel, then apparently you don't call many.

You would be wrong again. I have also said that to you before.

Peace

[Mwanr1]

I'm telling you guys: Rut needs a new video card and a monitor, or glasses.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by Mwanr1

I'm telling you guys: Rut needs a new video card and a monitor, or glasses.

If I recall, you are a person that is struggling to get acceptance in your area. I do not have that kind of problem. Keep that in mind when you come here asking questions about what should or should not be called.

Peace

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

You would be wrong again. I have also said that to you before.

Peace

Seriously, what part of this play is unclear? Do you not see this guy step into the lane, first one foot and then the other? How can this not be a travel?

[Mwanr1]

Originally Posted by just another ref

Seriously, what part of this play is unclear? Do you not see this guy step into the lane, first one foot and then the other? How can this not be a travel?

cause jrut says so!

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by just another ref

Seriously, what part of this play is unclear? Do you not see this guy step into the lane, first one foot and then the other? How can this not be a travel?

I did not say it was not a travel. I said it was hard to tell. And I do not call what I "think." I also know that high school officials love to call anything that looks funny whether it is a travel or a carry violation. And high school officials also like to call fouls for what looks like hard contact instead of actually calling the play.

I think the way I have called the game has worked out very well for me. Sorry if you disagree, but at some point you need to realize that what you think is really not my concern.

Peace

[Adam]

Geez, Rut, you're picking on words now.
JAR saying he "thinks" the guy traveled is like you saying that, "in your opinion" he traveled. Frankly, I saw enough on the video to call it on the 2nd one. The first one, with his back to the camera, I couldn't call because I can't see if he has control of the ball. In my opinion, the 2nd one is clear, though.