Foul on Inbounds after Time-out

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

Snaqwells: Did this happen more than 27 years ago. Before I began officiating, in the early 1980's?

I don't recall such a NFHS ruling in the 27 years that I've been officiating, but this may have happened prior to my officiating, when I was a coach. Could you possibly have a citation from so long ago?

POE #5 from the 2000-01 NFHS rule book said "Acts that must be deemed intentional include when a coach/player says 'Watch, we're going to foul.'." The FED then changed their philosophy in 2005-06 and issued POE #3B which said "Conversely, a coach who yells 'Foul' instructions to his/her team does not mean that the ensuing foul is automatically an intentional foul- even though it is a strategic foul designed to stop the clock."

Those are the citations, straight from the rulebook, Billy. Snaqs wouldn't lie to you.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

POE #5 from the 2000-01 NFHS rule book said "Acts that must be deemed intentional include when a coach/player says 'Watch, we're going to foul.'." The FED then changed their philosophy in 2005-06 and issued POE #3B which said "Conversely, a coach who yells 'Foul' instructions to his/her team does not mean that the ensuing foul is automatically an intentional foul- even though it is a strategic foul designed to stop the clock."Those are the citations, straight from the rulebook, Billy. Snaqs wouldn't lie to you.

I never suggested that Snaqwells was not telling the truth. I just didn't remember the Point of Emphasis, in force from 2000 to 2005, mandating that we call intentional fouls because the coach is yelling, "Foul". I believed that Snaqwells was a veteran (read old) official who may have remembered something from before I started officiating.

Jurassic Referee: Thanks for the citation.
Snaqwells: I'm sorry if you believed that I was questioning your honesty. I was really questioning my memory.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

I never suggested that Snaqwells was not telling the truth. I just didn't remember the Point of Emphasis, in force from 2000 to 2005, mandating that we call intentional fouls because the coach is yelling, "Foul". I believed that Snaqwells was a veteran (read old) official who may have remembered something from before I started officiating.

Jurassic Referee: Thanks for the citation.
Snaqwells: I'm sorry if you believed that I was questioning your honesty. I was really questioning my memory.

Nah, I'm just a pup who talks tough.
FWIW, I didn't think you questioning my honesty. I have way too thick skin, but if I'm ever offended, I'll take my concerns private and get it squared away.