I know it's summer league, but...

Off-season ball is what it is...
Unfortunately, most quality officials don't do off-season ball & that puts assignors in a situation where they have to use whoever is available. Most times the only requirement for working is owning a shirt (football or basketball) & a whistle (volleyball or basketball)

That being said, there is still SO MUCH you can do to improve YOUR game in these situations! Like others have said, get your signals tightened up, game management skills & effective communication can always be improved. Videotape your games & break them down, to plug some of those holes. Look at your presence, your run & your dead ball officiating. A good time to work on being an R for next season!

I used to look at it as a negative when working with "those guys" but now I embrace the opportunity to lead by example & people who KNOW good officiating when they see it generally let you know what a great job you did... considering.

The officials who say "it's just summer ball" are more than likely to say the same thing for JV games.
Probably the reason why they are still doing those games after 10+ years at the craft... continue to treat them all as State Championships/Final Fours & it will pay off.

Last year I found myself feeling the way you do now, until I was told, don't work off-season or take advantage of it. I do feel ya pain though...

[Coltdoggs]

If you are not bumping and running, aren't you getting caught in a long switch? The rest of it seems all to common for summer ball though....

I think I'd be saying something like "Hey P...let's make sure we are bumping and running unless you really like to run from baseline to baseline for some reason....I'd prefer if we bump and run...Ok with you?".

[Back In The Saddle]

Originally Posted by Coltdoggs

If you are not bumping and running, aren't you getting caught in a long switch? The rest of it seems all to common for summer ball though....

I think I'd be saying something like "Hey P...let's make sure we are bumping and running unless you really like to run from baseline to baseline for some reason....I'd prefer if we bump and run...Ok with you?".

I'm betting the OP's partner only eschewed the bump and run when it was the OP who had to go baseline to baseline.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by Ch1town

The officials who say "it's just summer ball" are more than likely to say the same thing for JV games.
Probably the reason why they are still doing those games after 10+ years at the craft... continue to treat them all as State Championships/Final Fours & it will pay off.

The problem is summer ball is not like other regular seasons. I was working a camp yesterday and only one of the 8 coaches even said a word to the officials about calls on a regular basis. The host coach who gave me a lot of crap during a regular season game I had with him was as quite as a mouse. It sounds great in theory to treat these games the same, but the participants do not treat these games the same. They are just trying to get better.

Peace

Originally Posted by JRutledge

The problem is summer ball is not like other regular seasons.

True

I was working a camp yesterday and only one of the 8 coaches even said a word to the officials about calls on a regular basis.

A testament of how good you guys are + nothing is on the line in the summer.

The host coach who gave me a lot of crap during a regular season game I had with him was as quiet as a mouse. It sounds great in theory to treat these games the same, but the participants do not treat these games the same.

They are just trying to get better.

Isn't that our goal as well?

Peace

I hear ya JRut, although the situations aren't exactly the same shouldn't our approach & work ethic be the same?

You are what you consistently do...

If we go hard in practice situations (off-season) wouldn't it be that much easier when the real deal (season) comes around?

Fighter pilots have said that their simulations for war time are so intense that when they actually go into combat it's a calm feeling as they have been here before.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by Ch1town

I hear ya JRut, although the situations aren't exactly the same shouldn't our approach & work ethic be the same?

You are what you consistently do...

If we go hard in practice situations (off-season) wouldn't it be that much easier when the real deal (season) comes around?

Fighter pilots have said that their simulations for war time are so intense that when they actually go into combat it's a calm feeling as they have been here before.

From what I understand in a simulation for fighter, they see situations they will have to deal with during a combat situation. The problem with summer ball, there are many situations that are not like the real season. I know many league I work we do not even handle foul situations the same and often FTs are not shot until late in the game. It is often unrealistic to use all the mechanics when you do not use all the rules that might apply to normal game situations.

What you need to work on the most is what you call. I use summer games for calling plays and getting my judgment right. I work on being consistent on calling my game, looking off ball and using my signal mechanics when appropriate. Things like table reporting and following certain rules are almost out of the question. The last thing I am worried about is switching in those games. Unless I am working a camp, I am not going to be using 3 Person mechanics during the summer anyway.

Peace

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

What you need to work on the most is what you call.

That sums it up nicely.

Maybe another way to express it might be that you should work on the parts of your game that you feel maybe aren't as strong as other parts.

Originally Posted by JRutledge

What you need to work on the most is what you call. I use summer games for calling plays and getting my judgment right. I work on being consistent on calling my game, looking off ball and using my signal mechanics when appropriate. Things like table reporting and following certain rules are almost out of the question. The last thing I am worried about is switching in those games. Unless I am working a camp, I am not going to be using 3 Person mechanics during the summer anyway.

Peace

I believe we're on the same page sir (see post #17)
as I was mainly addressing the "it's just summer ball" mentality.
IMO, The OPs partner could've said it in a better way...
It's just summer ball allows for many different interpretaions & perceptions.

[Raymond]

I just come out and say "we're not switching on every foul".

[truerookie]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

I just come out and say "we're not switching on every foul".

Good point! For me in the lead position I would switch when calling a foul IN trail I just report and put the ball back in place.