3-Man Mechanics Differences, NFHS vs. NCAA?

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by rfp

If the calling official was the C and he was opposite, he'd go back opposite, right? Of course then he'd be the new T. But the non-calling officials would stay put, yes?

It all depends on where the ball is going to be put and whether you are staying in the FC or the ball will be in the BC.

Honestly rfp, the best advice you need to adhere to is go and buy the books and examine the differences that way. There are so many things that are asked of officials at different levels and different states, it is going to be very difficult to sort out all the differences on this forum. Many of the differences are subtle and can vary based on many factors even outside of what the book says. It is better that you purchase a copy of the CCA Book (Men or Women's) and decide what those are. And when you start talking about what side of college basketball and those mechanics that is a whole other issue.

Peace

[rfp]

OK, I guess I assumed (hoped?) the differences would not be so significant.

I'm attending my first college camp this summer and don't want to look like a complete rookie since NFHS mechanics are what I know.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by rfp

OK, I guess I assumed (hoped?) the differences would not be so significant.

I'm attending my first college camp this summer and don't want to look like a complete rookie since NFHS mechanics are what I know.

What kind of camp? Men or Women's?

Peace

[rfp]

Men's.

[TussAgee11]

Correct my mistake if I'm wrong as I don't have nearly as much experience as others...

But doesn't FED want the lead outside on baseline throw-ins while NCAA wants you inside?

[JRutledge]

You are in luck. NF Mechanics are very similar to Men's Mechanics. But I would still suggest that you buy a CCA Manual before you attend the camp. The basic ideas are the same, but the Lead has a dual area with the Center (like it used to be). The rotation philosophies are also similar with the ball settling in on the other side (there are some nuances to that based on where you live and who you work for). The reporting area is very similar. The Team Control signal is different than NF (same as the PC Foul, but then again some supervisors might not care if you use the HS mechanic). The college wants you to go opposite table on all fouls and no long switches. Do not make that complicated; you just go away from the table when you stay in the FC. Those are the major things I can think of. But at any college camp you will likely hear personal preferences as it relates to what is done in very specific situations (rotation philosophy, foul reporting, double whistles, and handling Ts). You might get all kinds of ideas and you might have to adapt. But the more you know of the "by the book" mechanics the better so you know when and how to adjust.

Again this is just an overview; my words are not the law.

Peace

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by TussAgee11

Correct my mistake if I'm wrong as I don't have nearly as much experience as others...

But doesn't FED want the lead outside on baseline throw-ins while NCAA wants you inside?

I think FED gives you some options as well as Men's mechanics. And this might be shaped by who you work for and where you live. I always recommend people to be outside unless you are outside of the 3 point line on a throw in because most officials as the lead put themselves in a bad sport when they go inside on a throw in. Then again in my state we have the option, it is not required. And that is what he might hear when going to a camp and other opinions that will disagree with that very opinion.

Peace

[Back In The Saddle]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

I think FED gives you some options as well as Men's mechanics. And this might be shaped by who you work for and where you live. I always recommend people to be outside unless you are outside of the 3 point line on a throw in because most officials as the lead put themselves in a bad sport when they go inside on a throw in. Then again in my state we have the option, it is not required. And that is what he might hear when going to a camp and other opinions that will disagree with that very opinion.

Peace

My three man experience is fairly limited. What do you think are the pros and cons of being inside v. outside on the baseline throw-in?

[Scrapper1]

Originally Posted by Back In The Saddle

My three man experience is fairly limited. What do you think are the pros and cons of being inside v. outside on the baseline throw-in?

If the throw-in spot is at the 3-point arc, then standing outside the inbounder gives you a very bad view of the post. If the throw-in goes directly to a post player, you don't get a good look at the play. You'd either have to move behind the inbounder or step onto the court to see around him/her.

If you administer the throw-in from "inside" the inbounder, you only have to turn your head to see that play in the post.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by Back In The Saddle

My three man experience is fairly limited. What do you think are the pros and cons of being inside v. outside on the baseline throw-in?

Scrappy pretty much said what I was going to say. I do not have much to add to his points. I would also say that many times the official on the inside end up in the lane and also lose the angle on plays that might quickly go to the basket off the throw-in. I just think when you are outside you are in a familiar position and you will not have to move very much to stay in good position if you start on the outside. Once again this for me is an option and I never take a player to the outside and I stay in the inside. Then again I have much experience with both mechanics and drew much of that conclusion on my own. Later I was told that you do not need to go inside except for when the ball is around the 3 point line on the baseline.

Peace

[Adam]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

Scrappy pretty much said what I was going to say. I do not have much to add to his points.

And yet....

Originally Posted by JRutledge

I would also say that many times the official on the inside end up in the lane and also lose the angle on plays that might quickly go to the basket off the throw-in. I just think when you are outside you are in a familiar position and you will not have to move very much to stay in good position if you start on the outside. Once again this for me is an option and I never take a player to the outside and I stay in the inside. Then again I have much experience with both mechanics and drew much of that conclusion on my own. Later I was told that you do not need to go inside except for when the ball is around the 3 point line on the baseline.

Peace

[Texas Aggie]

If I have room, with room being defined as the ability to work my mechanics between the lane line and the player, I'm probably going to go inside. But I have gone inside only to come outside before.

[truerookie]

Originally Posted by rfp

don't want to look like a complete rookie since NFHS mechanics are what I know.

What's wrong with being a rookie?