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rfp Tue Apr 29, 2008 07:59am

3-Man Mechanics Differences, NFHS vs. NCAA?
 
Are there differences in mechanics in 3-man officiating in NFHS and college? Specifically, are there differences in how officials switch after a foul is reported to the table?

jdw3018 Tue Apr 29, 2008 08:04am

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Originally Posted by rfp
Are there differences in mechanics in 3-man officiating in NFHS and college? Specifically, are there differences in how officials switch after a foul is reported to the table?

Yes. There are quite a few mechanics differences in NFHS, NCAA-W, and NCAA-M. All three have pretty significant differences.

That said, for foul reporting NFHS and NCAA-W are the same (go tableside when reporting), while NCAA-M go away from the table after reporting.

NCAA-W uses 2-hand reporting, NFHS and NCAA-M use 1-hand.

rfp Tue Apr 29, 2008 09:02am

So in NCAA-M, if the L calls a foul and goes to the table to report and then goes opposite the table, how do the T and C move?

Ch1town Tue Apr 29, 2008 09:06am

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So in NCAA-M, if the L calls a foul and goes to the table to report and then goes opposite the table, how do the T and C move?

Not that I've been afforded the opportunity as of yet, but I believe the L switches with whomever was opposite the table when the call was made.

mj Tue Apr 29, 2008 09:18am

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So in NCAA-M, if the L calls a foul and goes to the table to report and then goes opposite the table, how do the T and C move?

Whoever was opposite the table replaces the official who called the foul.

rfp Tue Apr 29, 2008 09:35am

And if the calling official was opposite the table, he reports and then goes back to his same position and no one else switches?

M&M Guy Tue Apr 29, 2008 09:45am

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And if the calling official was opposite the table, he reports and then goes back to his same position and no one else switches?

Correct.

I'm not sure how long you've been officiating, but in NCAA-M the mechanics are going back to what they were before "table-side" reporting was instituted 3 or 4 seasons ago.

There are some other differences in areas of coverage between officials.

Scrapper1 Tue Apr 29, 2008 09:45am

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Originally Posted by rfp
And if the calling official was opposite the table, he reports and then goes back to his same position and no one else switches?

Correct.

M&M Guy Tue Apr 29, 2008 09:56am

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Originally Posted by Scrapper1
Correct.

Copy-cat.

JRutledge Tue Apr 29, 2008 09:58am

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Originally Posted by rfp
And if the calling official was opposite the table, he reports and then goes back to his same position and no one else switches?

Only if that official is the T and they stay the T. The L would still switch with the T.

Peace

rfp Tue Apr 29, 2008 10:21am

If the calling official was the C and he was opposite, he'd go back opposite, right? Of course then he'd be the new T. But the non-calling officials would stay put, yes?

M&M Guy Tue Apr 29, 2008 10:24am

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If the calling official was the C and he was opposite, he'd go back opposite, right? Of course then he'd be the new T. But the non-calling officials would stay put, yes?

Correct again, assuming the foul was in the front court and you are staying in the front court.

Scrapper1 Tue Apr 29, 2008 10:30am

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Originally Posted by rfp
If the calling official was the C and he was opposite, he'd go back opposite, right? Of course then he'd be the new T.

Correct again, assuming the foul was in the front court and you are staying in the front court.

Huh. . . What if it's a shooting foul? :confused:

M&M Guy Tue Apr 29, 2008 10:37am

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Huh. . . What if it's a shooting foul? :confused:

He didn't say that, and I didn't assume that. ;)

He also didn't say if it was a technical foul, flagrant foul, intentional foul, common foul but in the bonus, team control foul...

Dan_ref Tue Apr 29, 2008 10:56am

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Huh. . . What if it's a shooting foul? :confused:

You're wandering into repulsive territory my friend.


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