NCAA/NFHS rule differences

[WAWhistleBlower]

nit-picky ?? re: the Time to Replace a DQ'd player...

NFHS - 30 secs, warning horn at 20 seconds. (This means they sound the warning with ten seconds left, right?)

NCAA - 20 secs, warning horn at 5 seconds. (referring to the above, would they sound a warning with 15 secs left?)

Also, I don't have my NFHS book handy, but I've been reading the differences between Indirect and Direct technical fouls in the NCAA book. I never realized that slapping the backboard or grasping the ring (excessive after a dunk) is an Indirect "T". Some of the other reasons for an Indirect also caught me by surprise. I would have thought these were to be direct T's...are they defined the same in HS?

Also, when you make an Indirect call, do you report it as such at the table?

Thanks!

[btaylor64]

No they are not defined the same. All T's in HS are direct T's. Indirect T's are such that they are not charged to the player which I love for the slapping and dunking rule.

[WAWhistleBlower]

Originally Posted by btaylor64

No they are not defined the same. All T's in HS are direct T's. Indirect T's are such that they are not charged to the player which I love for the slapping and dunking rule.

So in HS, a coach is never given an indirect T? Like for a lineup mistake in the scorebook or bench personell acting unsporting?

Or did you mean that in HS all T's toward a player are direct?

[BktBallRef]

Quite honestly, I don't know what Taylor is trying to say. It's not very clear.

Under NFHS, direct T's charged to bench personnel are charged indirectly to the head coach. Those are the only indirect T's under NFHS.

A mistake in the roster is an administrative T. It is not charged to the head coach, either directly or indirectly.

[btaylor64]

To me an indirect T means that it is not charged to anyone and it is not a team foul. In HS all T's are counted toward the team foul count. Sorry for the confusion.

[WAWhistleBlower]

Gotcha...any info on the time replacing a DQ'd player...the differences between HS and NCAA?

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by WAWhistleBlower

nit-picky ?? re: the Time to Replace a DQ'd player...

NFHS - 30 secs, warning horn at 20 seconds. (This means they sound the warning with ten seconds left, right?)

NCAA - 20 secs, warning horn at 5 seconds. (referring to the above, would they sound a warning with 15 secs left?)

Thanks!

This wording has always cause a minor amount of confusion. The warning horns are meant to indicate that the time alloted for the replacement (or timeout or intermission) is about to end...not that it just started.

The numbers just depend on whether you count up to the number or count down from the number. The NFHS assumes the count is going up from 0. When you get to 20, you sound the warning. The NCAA assumes the count is going down and the horn is sounded with 5 seconds left. The NCAA is more logical since ALL other timers count down in basketball....game clock, shot clock, timeout clocks, etc.