Your thoughts please.

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by Coltdoggs

These are kids...there are different ways to teach them...

And putting your arm around the l'il turd and whispering nicey-nices in his ear will never teach him a damn thing either, Dr. Phil.

There is nowayinhell any official in any sport should ever let any participant in one of his games get away with telling him that he sucks. I don't care which one of the million excuses gets used either. And that goes double for youth sports!

[JugglingReferee]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

True, but it's not a court of law. I don't have to, and that's not why I'm calling the T anyway. I'm calling the T because the comment deserves it, and the NFHS wants it called.

Teaching the kid a lesson is only an added benefit of the call.

I would have loved to officiate in this game!

[Adam]

Me too.

[Tio]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

I'm at work in Denver, and my rule book is at home with my computer, but there is a case play which shows definitively that the NFHS agrees with me on this.

I agree with this, in most cases. For the same reason you want to quickly deal with a coach who constantly yet relatively quietly chirps, "travel, double dribble, that was a foul...." you want to address a whiny player early.

This might just be flagrant, IMO.

Have fun explaining this as a flagrant T. I hope your coordinator agrees with you.

[Coltdoggs]

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

And putting your arm around the l'il turd and whispering nicey-nices in his ear will never teach him a damn thing either, Dr. Phil.

There is nowayinhell any official in any sport should ever let any participant in one of his games get away with telling him that he sucks. I don't care which one of the million excuses gets used either. And that goes double for youth sports!

Again...depends on the level J R. In my case from Saturday...it worked quite well...the kid calmed down and I had no issues with him after our chat...That's not gonna work in all cases though....

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Tio

Have fun explaining this as a flagrant T. I hope your coordinator agrees with you.

Kid tries to chase me down while I'm leaving the court to yell at me? Haven't had an assignor yet who wouldn't back up a flagrant call.

[rockyroad]

Originally Posted by Tio

Have fun explaining this as a flagrant T. I hope your coordinator agrees with you.

WTF else would it be??? A kid chases after you as you are leaving the court to yell at you, and you're gonna do nothing?

[Adam]

Let me add that at this level (8th grade All Stars with NBA contracts just waiting to be signed), if I lose games for giving a flagrant technical to a kid who chased me down as I was trying to leave the court, I'll go find another 8th grade all star tournament to work where kids are taught to behave like human beings.

[Dan_ref]

Originally Posted by rockyroad

WTF else would it be??? A kid chases after you as you are leaving the court to yell at you, and you're gonna do nothing?

You must forgive Rocky, he's had a very difficult season dealing with his own coordinator and is a little gunshy sensitive... of course why someone would be even remotely concerned about explaining a T to the coordinator of a 8th grade CYO game is beyond me, but obviously some are. :shrug:

Anyways Rock, go lie down for a while, at least until you stop shaking...

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Dan_ref

of course why someone would be even remotely concerned about explaining a T to the coordinator of a 8th grade CYO game is beyond me, but obviously some are.

But, they're all stars; feeding into high level freshman leagues.

[Mark Padgett]

For you guys who think nothing should have been done, ask yourselves this: if you wouldn't give a kid a T for saying to you "You suck", what would he have to say for you to give him a T? A phrase that includes a word that rhymes with "suck"? Are you saying anything short of that is OK? That's fuc*ed! Er, wait - that's a T.

I can't imagine any situation in which I wouldn't give a T to a player - any player at any level - for saying "You suck" to me under any circumstances.

[oldschool]

Doing youth tournaments you usually do multiple games. When does your jurisdiction end after a game. You mentioned you would T up after the game finished. I don't have my rule book here. Thanks

[Adam]

Originally Posted by oldschool

Doing youth tournaments you usually do multiple games. When does your jurisdiction end after a game. You mentioned you would T up after the game finished. I don't have my rule book here. Thanks

Once the score is approved or the officials have left the visual confines of the court, the jurisdiction has ended.
In the original post of this thread, the comments came immediately after the 4th quarter horn sounded.

[blindzebra]

Originally Posted by oldschool

Doing youth tournaments you usually do multiple games. When does your jurisdiction end after a game. You mentioned you would T up after the game finished. I don't have my rule book here. Thanks

The book has nothing about multiple games...it ends when all officials leave the visual confines of the gym.

[Dan_ref]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

But, they're all stars; feeding into high level freshman leagues.

Hmmm... good point.

Wouldn't want to blow your big chance to move up to the big time because you're thin-skinned, unprofessional and un-approachable... (hey Rocky, where have I heard that before

Speaking of breaking into the big time and blowing your chances (cough cough) ... how would you like to be Eliot Spitzer today?