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Old Mon Mar 10, 2008, 12:48pm
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I guess we will disagree then. Calling a T after the game is over just draws undue attention to an official or crew. This situation should have been managed before the game, not after. Now if the kid chases the crew off the floor, that is a different story.

I'm at work in Denver, and my rule book is at home with my computer, but there is a case play which shows definitively that the NFHS agrees with me on this.


I agree with this, in most cases. For the same reason you want to quickly deal with a coach who constantly yet relatively quietly chirps, "travel, double dribble, that was a foul...." you want to address a whiny player early.

This might just be flagrant, IMO.
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Old Mon Mar 10, 2008, 01:01pm
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I'm at work in Denver, and my rule book is at home with my computer, but there is a case play which shows definitively that the NFHS agrees with me on this.


I agree with this, in most cases. For the same reason you want to quickly deal with a coach who constantly yet relatively quietly chirps, "travel, double dribble, that was a foul...." you want to address a whiny player early.

This might just be flagrant, IMO.
Does the Fed also advocate an official chasing down a player and issuing an ultimatum?

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I head straight for him and tell "you want to continue to play this weekend you will need to keep you mouth shut".
I think the official has to eat this one. No T and learn from the situation to improve, just as I'm sure that s/he did.
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Old Mon Mar 10, 2008, 03:44pm
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I'm at work in Denver, and my rule book is at home with my computer, but there is a case play which shows definitively that the NFHS agrees with me on this.


I agree with this, in most cases. For the same reason you want to quickly deal with a coach who constantly yet relatively quietly chirps, "travel, double dribble, that was a foul...." you want to address a whiny player early.

This might just be flagrant, IMO.
Have fun explaining this as a flagrant T. I hope your coordinator agrees with you.
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Old Mon Mar 10, 2008, 02:07pm
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8th Grade All Star Tournament.

The kid turns to me and very plainly yells "you Suck" and then briskly walks away.

My question to you all is: Did i handle this ok?? Should I have just walked away from the kid?? Should i have t'd him up (which would not have hurt his status for future games)??

Any advice would be appreciated.
8th grade? Flagrant "T". It's "lesson time", folks. Btw, it's not only "lesson time" for the player; it's "lesson time" for his coach also. It's part of our job. Unfortunately, it's also true that some officials will always have any one of a million excuses to walk away from a situation like this. Anything to avoid confrontation. They don't help the rest of us that will have to deal with the l'il sh!t down the line.

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Old Mon Mar 10, 2008, 02:29pm
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8th grade? Flagrant "T". It's "lesson time", folks. Btw, it's not only "lesson time" for the player; it's "lesson time" for his coach also. It's part of our job. Unfortunately, it's also true that some officials will always have any one of a million excuses to walk away from a situation like this. Anything to avoid confrontation. They don't help the rest of us that will have to deal with the l'il sh!t down the line.
I'm with JR on this one. Flagrant T even if it's the end of the game. Get it recorded and on the book for this little turd. Even if it has no bearing on the outcome...report it to admin. Whomever said it makes the crew look bad at the end of the game...I couldn't disgree more. Swallowing that crap from a 14 year old at ANY time looks worse.
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