Free Throw Violation- Shooter with ball

[lpbreeze]

Is there a cite for that? I swear this is a violation in the NBA but I'm not sure for HS and NCAA. For me it should be a violation because he made a shooting motion with the ball---edit. perhaps you were referring to the second part. But back on the Ft. Could a player pretend to throw the ball at the basket if it isn't a violation to draw the other team into a lane violation? I called a violation because the other team did step into the lane.

[jdw3018]

Originally Posted by lpbreeze

Is there a cite for that? I swear this is a violation in the NBA but I'm not sure for HS and NCAA. For me it should be a violation because he made a shooting motion with the ball---edit. perhaps you were referring to the second part. But back on the Ft. Could a player pretend to throw the ball at the basket if it isn't a violation to draw the other team into a lane violation? I called a violation because the other team did step into the lane.

The only way I'd call a violation in that instance is if the action drew his opponent into the lane. Otherwise, it's nothing.

Oh, and it's much more appropriate to provide a citation about how this is a violation, rather than looking for one to explicitly allow it. If it's not against the rules, it's legal.

[lpbreeze]

Really? I just can't understand that. So a player is allowed to do any type of shooting motion, even releasing the ball as long as its not toward the rim. Or fake a toss at the rim as long as it doesn't draw the other team into a violation? Well if its not in the rules it should be. I just think you can't make a shooting motion with the ball that doesn't go to the rim

[jdw3018]

Originally Posted by lpbreeze

Really? I just can't understand that. So a player is allowed to do any type of shooting motion, even releasing the ball as long as its not toward the rim. Or fake a toss at the rim as long as it doesn't draw the other team into a violation? Well if its not in the rules it should be. I just think you can't make a shooting motion with the ball

Why not? It obviously isn't the player's actual shot, so why should an official care?

[lpbreeze]

Does anyone know if this is an NBA or NCAA violation. I would be shocked if it isn't an NBA violation because I've swear I've seen it called.

[jdw3018]

I'm not an expert on NCAA rules, but as far as I know there's nothing in their rules that would make this a violation.

As far as the NBA, I swear I've never seen a violation called on a FT shooter.

[lpbreeze]

back to "if the action drew his opponent into the lane"

So could a player do a pre ft where he motions the ball toward the rim not releasing it. Or releasing it straight up as in the OP. But no opponent steps into the lane say after multiple ft attempts. But then late in the game even though the shooter has shot fts before, an opponent is drawn into the lane? If I were a coach and a shooter is doing that I could tell my players to step into the lane to draw a violation on the shooter. Then of course, the other coach would be saying why would something that was legal before suddenly be illegal?