Wild End (Timing issue).

[hbioteach]

Team A(home team) up by 2 points 1.3 on clock (4th quarter). A has a spot throw in at defensive baseline.

I'm the T and have the throw in. A1 on a football style throw has inbound slightly tipped by B1. I chop in. Clock doesn't start. I start a visable count while ball is in midair headed towards division line. I get to one as B2 catches ball. I come out with multiple whistles waving off any shot as B2 is shooting a half court shot that goes in. Also signal tip after whistle. My whistle is before release.

Did I handle this right?

B coach goes nuts as my partner and I leave the floor.

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by hbioteach

Team A(home team) up by 2 points 1.3 on clock (4th quarter). A has a spot throw in at defensive baseline.

I'm the T and have the throw in. A1 on a football style throw has inbound slightly tipped by B1. I chop in. Clock doesn't start. I start a visable count while ball is in midair headed towards division line. I get to one as B2 catches ball. I come out with multiple whistles waving off any shot as B2 is shooting a half court shot that goes in. Also signal tip after whistle. My whistle is before release.

Did I handle this right?

B coach goes nuts as my partner and I leave the floor.

I missed something. Your count got to one. You blew the whistle. Are you somehow trying to incorporate
.3=no catch & shoot into this?

[tjones1]

You chop, have a 1 count, then player B2 catches the balls (steals) and shoots. After he catches it, you blow it dead and wave it off - right?

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[tjones1]

Originally Posted by just another ref

Are you somehow trying to incorporate
.3=no catch & shoot into this?

JAR,

Yes, I believe this is where he's going.

[hbioteach]

Yes, To the description of play. The .3 is from the time after I chopped and recognized clock did not start and then began visable count.

[crazy voyager]

If the time didn't start and you are sure you had a good count, then I'd say yes. And furthermore, you should never ever let a team win when you know they didn't deserve it. B1 played good defence by tipping that ball and that should be rewarded. You did the right thing

[fullor30]

Originally Posted by tjones1

You chop, have a 1 count, then player B2 catches the balls (steels) and shoots. After he catches it, you blow it dead and wave it off - right?

Balls of steel? Wow!

[tjones1]

Originally Posted by fullor30

Balls of steel? Wow!

Ha Ha... nice catch! Corrected just for you!

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by hbioteach

Team A(home team) up by 2 points 1.3 on clock (4th quarter). A has a spot throw in at defensive baseline.

I'm the T and have the throw in. A1 on a football style throw has inbound slightly tipped by B1. I chop in. Clock doesn't start. I start a visable count while ball is in midair headed towards division line. I get to one as B2 catches ball. I come out with multiple whistles waving off any shot as B2 is shooting a half court shot that goes in. Also signal tip after whistle. My whistle is before release.

Did I handle this right?

B coach goes nuts as my partner and I leave the floor.

You were right up until you blew the play dead. The "Can't catch and shoot at .3 or under" rule applies only if the clock is stopped with .3 seconds. Once it's running at more than .3, then the player is allowed to (try to) catch and shoot, even if the catch happens at .3

[just another ref]

If we're taking a vote, I don't think one can use a count to say we have reached .3 and disallow the shot. I think that using a count to have "definite knowledge" of anything less than a whole second is not realistic.

[Adam]

Count to 1.5 and blow it dead.

Or, if you don't want to do that, just go with a do-over.

[Cajun Reff]

Originally Posted by just another ref

If we're taking a vote, I don't think one can use a count to say we have reached .3 and disallow the shot. I think that using a count to have "definite knowledge" of anything less than a whole second is not realistic.

good post and no kidding - we are HUMAN BEINGS, NOT MACHINES PEOPLE

[tjones1]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

You were right up until you blew the play dead. The "Can't catch and shoot at .3 or under" rule applies only if the clock is stopped with .3 seconds. Once it's running at more than .3, then the player is allowed to (try to) catch and shoot, even if the catch happens at .3

Agree.

5-2-5
When play is resumed with a throw-in or free throw...

[hbioteach]

Once the ball was tipped, clock did not start. There was certainly a one second delay between when the ball was tipped and me starting a visable count.

Ball tipped.Chop in. Clock doesn't start.
Delay. Start visable count. Blow whistle.

I know that at least 1.3 elapsed between tip at baseline and catch and release of shot at halfcourt. NO DOUBTS.

[Terrapins Fan]

I'm betting the winning coach didn't complain.

Good job.