Over and Back

[A Pennsylvania Coach]

Originally Posted by buckrog64

It's also over and back when there is a 'scrum' as I would call it near the division line, where two teams are fighting over a loose ball. If A last touches it in the front court in this chase for the ball, and they are the first to touch it in the back court, then you have O&B there as well as far as I am concerned. Team control exists when the ball is being passed and during an interrupted dribble. Again, the fans don't like the call, but in most cases, I've taken the approach that O&B is much easier call to make most of the time because the rule takes the guess work on how the ball made it into the back court, who touched it last and then first, etc. It then becomes a judgement on who you saw touch it last and if it's close, you can usually get away with making a no-call when in the back court. But I guarantee, most people in the stands do not understand this rule.

Only if Team A had control before the scrum, right?

[tjones1]

Right, Team A still has team control during a loose ball. 4-12-4

[Jesse James]

I wouldn't put this one all on the fans. IMO the scenario-Team A with team control in frontcourt, then B forces loose ball, but A is last to touch in frontcourt, and first to touch in backcourt is the most mis-applied no-call in our state. I don't know if it's the game interruptor theory or what-but guys (saw a state finals official pass on one last week) pretty consistently let it slide, and when someone actually does correctly call the violation, all hell breaks loose.

[buckrog64]

Agreed, team A was in control before the scrum and they were the last to touch. Jesse is also correct, I see guys let this go for whatever reason and when it is called properly, it's not pretty in the eyes of the fans.

[mick]

Originally Posted by Jesse James

IMO the scenario-Team A with team control in frontcourt, then B forces loose ball, but A is last to touch in frontcourt, and first to touch in backcourt is the most mis-applied no-call in our state.

This year, I had a coupla crowds standing on that play.
I don't care.