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Old Thu Feb 21, 2008, 05:46am
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NBA blarge

SportsCenter just showed that the refs had a blarge in the Celtics/Warriors game.
They apparently went with a block as 2 FTs were awarded.

I don't know the NBA rule.
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Old Thu Feb 21, 2008, 06:39am
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NBA rule 4-19-3..."When officials make conflicting calls in a block/charge situation, the foul shall always be charged to the player that has the lower STAR rating."

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Old Thu Feb 21, 2008, 07:52am
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NBA rule 4-19-3..."When officials make conflicting calls in a block/charge situation, the foul shall always be charged to the player that has the lower STAR rating."

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Old Thu Feb 21, 2008, 08:43am
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NBA rule 4-19-3..."When officials make conflicting calls in a block/charge situation, the foul shall always be charged to the player that has the lower STAR rating."

It's true, it's true.......
Let's see? Paul Pierce shot the free throws. Al Harrington pick up a blocking foul. Maybe you're on to something?

BTW, the collision happened right in front of the basket but outside the "block/charge" arc (or whatever they call it). Lead had a Charge, C came in with a block.
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Old Thu Feb 21, 2008, 08:54am
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Let's see? Paul Pierce shot the free throws. Al Harrington pick up a blocking foul. Maybe you're on to something?

BTW, the collision happened right in front of the basket but outside the "block/charge" arc (or whatever they call it). Lead had a Charge, C came in with a block.
NBA rule 4-19-3.AR1--If both players are stars, i.e are rated in the top 10% of all active players by ESPN, then the player with the lesser number of fouls in that game will be charged with the foul."

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Old Thu Feb 21, 2008, 08:55am
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NBA rule 4-19-3..."When officials make conflicting calls in a block/charge situation, the foul shall always be charged to the player that has the lower STAR rating."

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Good one!! Truer words have probably never been posted to this forum......
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Old Thu Feb 21, 2008, 09:16am
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My original reaction when I saw the hilights was "Charge" and a great call by the Lead.
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Old Thu Feb 21, 2008, 09:38am
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My original reaction when I saw the hilights was "Charge" and a great call by the Lead.
It was a block because Harrington's right heel is on the restricted circle's line. If this was a high school or college game then it would be a Player Control. The Lead came out with the signal before the C but the C had a good look at his right heel and signaled a block even though his partner was calling a PC. This was a good job by the C to get the play right.

I can't imagine having to referee a play like that and also having to look at his feet to see if he is on the line.
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Old Thu Feb 21, 2008, 09:17am
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Rule 12-B, Section VI:

f. If a double foul occurs as a result of a difference in opinion by the officials, no points can be scored and play shall resume with a jump ball at the center circle between any two opponents in the game at that time. No substitute may participate in the jump ball.
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Old Thu Feb 21, 2008, 11:55am
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Its good to know that the Professionals have blarges as well!!!! All year, I have been working on no prelims...and it has kept me out of trouble several times.
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Old Thu Feb 21, 2008, 04:42pm
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I wish they would just get rid of that arc because the NBA referees should be good enough to call it correctly without the line there.

Also, I think the line is a defensive disadvantage because it is like having a virtual screen set if you want to get a legal guarding position.
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Old Thu Feb 21, 2008, 06:11pm
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I wish they would just get rid of that arc because the NBA referees should be good enough to call it correctly without the line there.

Also, I think the line is a defensive disadvantage because it is like having a virtual screen set if you want to get a legal guarding position.
This is the reason that the restricted area was implemented! The NBA wanted more drives to the basket. The secondary defender would jump over and take away those drives to the basket.
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Old Fri Feb 22, 2008, 08:56am
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I wish they would just get rid of that arc because the NBA referees should be good enough to call it correctly without the line there.

Also, I think the line is a defensive disadvantage because it is like having a virtual screen set if you want to get a legal guarding position.
The arc has nothing at all to do with the ability of the referees. The referees are good enough to call it correctly whether the arc is there or not.

As All Heart mentioned, the purpose of the arc is to prevent "cheap" charges being picked up by secondary defenders. The NBA philosophy is that if you are that close to the basket, you're not really playing defense; you're only there to try and draw a charge. They don't mind having offensive fouls, but they don't want people taking a position with the sole purpose of drawing the offensive foul.
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Old Fri Feb 22, 2008, 09:14am
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They don't mind having offensive fouls, but they don't want people taking a position with the sole purpose of drawing the offensive foul.
Yup, that would be called "playing help defense". And "help defense" is frowned on in the NBA because it would cut down scoring. And besides cutting down scoring, you wouldn't see all of those awesome dunks from players who otherwise usually can't dribble, pass or shoot a 15 footer. And you also wouldn't get to see those players who just made that awesome dunk pound his chest, point at the defender he dunked on, dance, and perform all of those other little post-dunk acts that we've grown to know and love....all while the other team is going 5 on 4 the other way.

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