6 Men on the Floor

[ma_ref]

Originally Posted by Whistles & Stripes

I beleive that the coach is responsible for providing a correct roster prior to the 10 minute mark -- not for entering it into the book.

How the data gets in the book is not important, but it is the coach's responsibility to verify that the information in the official book is accurate.

Originally Posted by Whistles & Stripes

So, if the coach provides a complete and accurate roster, and the scorer enters it in the book INCORRECTLY, you are going to penalize that team for the scorer's mistake?

Yes, and actually I have handed out a T for this (it happened a few years ago, but I believe the scorer copied a uniform number incorrectly). I said before that, "it's the coach's repsonsibility to make sure that player is listed properly in the book prior to the start of the game". Whether this is done via entering the players' names himself/herself, or by verifying that the scorer has transferred the names correctly, is completely up to the individual coach. But if the coach just leaves it up to the scorer to enter their roster (just a high school kid doing the book, more often than not), then that's on the coach's conscience if something goes wrong.

[jdw3018]

Originally Posted by ma_ref

How the data gets in the book is not important, but it is the coach's responsibility to verify that the information in the official book is accurate.


Yes, and actually I have handed out a T for this (it happened a few years ago, but I believe the scorer copied a uniform number incorrectly). I said before that, "it's the coach's repsonsibility to make sure that player is listed properly in the book prior to the start of the game". Whether this is done via entering the players' names himself/herself, or by verifying that the scorer has transferred the names correctly, is completely up to the individual coach. But if the coach just leaves it up to the scorer to enter their roster (just a high school kid doing the book, more often than not), then that's on the coach's conscience if something goes wrong.

This isn't correct, ma ref. The coach is only responsible for supplying a correct list of players and starters prior to the 10 minute mark. It is not the coach's responsibility to check the scorers entries. That's why whenever there is a mistake in the book, you need to ask what was supplied to the scorer by the coach (that may be the book, for the home team, or the visitor's book for the visiting team).

Penalizing a team because the scorer screwed up is simply wrong. It is just a bookkeeping error.

[WhistlesAndStripes]

Originally Posted by ma_ref

How the data gets in the book is not important, but it is the coach's responsibility to verify that the information in the official book is accurate.


Yes, and actually I have handed out a T for this (it happened a few years ago, but I believe the scorer copied a uniform number incorrectly). I said before that, "it's the coach's repsonsibility to make sure that player is listed properly in the book prior to the start of the game". Whether this is done via entering the players' names himself/herself, or by verifying that the scorer has transferred the names correctly, is completely up to the individual coach. But if the coach just leaves it up to the scorer to enter their roster (just a high school kid doing the book, more often than not), then that's on the coach's conscience if something goes wrong.

You are completely wrong on this ma_ref. Rule 10-1-1: Art. 1... Fail to supply the scorer with the name and number of each team member who may participate and designate the five starting players at least 10 minutes before the scheduled starting time.

There is NOTHING in the rulebook ANYWHERE saying that the head coach is responsible for verifying what is entered in the scorebook.