Inbound bounce pass question

[kblehman]

I've had this happen a couple times in games and didn't call anything. Looked for it later in my rule book but couldn't find a ruling, but I know the experts here can help me on this one.

When a player is inbounding the ball and uses a bounce bass to get the ball to his teammate in play, is it okay if the bounce pass lands on the endline or the sideline and is then grabbed by someone in play?

[JugglingReferee]

Originally Posted by kblehman

I've had this happen a couple times in games and didn't call anything. Looked for it later in my rule book but couldn't find a ruling, but I know the experts here can help me on this one.

When a player is inbounding the ball and uses a bounce bass to get the ball to his teammate in play, is it okay if the bounce pass lands on the endline or the sideline and is then grabbed by someone in play?

No. The game of basketball is played within the bounds of the playing surface. Try looking under Rule 9 - Violations.

[jcarter]

Originally Posted by kblehman

I've had this happen a couple times in games and didn't call anything. Looked for it later in my rule book but couldn't find a ruling, but I know the experts here can help me on this one.

When a player is inbounding the ball and uses a bounce bass to get the ball to his teammate in play, is it okay if the bounce pass lands on the endline or the sideline and is then grabbed by someone in play?

I believe they have those in TN near the rubber plants...




but seriously, that is a violation.

[Splute]

Originally Posted by kblehman

I've had this happen a couple times in games and didn't call anything. Looked for it later in my rule book but couldn't find a ruling, but I know the experts here can help me on this one.

When a player is inbounding the ball and uses a bounce bass to get the ball to his teammate in play, is it okay if the bounce pass lands on the endline or the sideline and is then grabbed by someone in play?

From 06-07 rules

		Rule 7: Out of Bounds and the Throw-in
			Section 6: Throw-in Administration
				Article 1

Art. 1... The throw-in starts when the ball is at the disposal of a player of the team entitled to the throw-in. The thrower shall release the ball on a pass directly into the court, except as in 7-5-7, within five seconds after the throw-in starts. The throw-in pass shall touch another player (inbounds or out of bounds) on the court before going out of bounds untouched. The throw-in pass shall not touch a teammate while it is on the out-of-bounds side of the throw-in boundary plane.

[kblehman]

Thanks, fellas. That's what I thought. I don't have my rule book with me here at work, so I'm looking for an example in my case book. At any rate, I now know for sure it's a violation.

Follow-up:
After a made basket by Team A, B1 can grab the ball and throw it to B2 who is also out of bounds on the end line, and B2 can then legally inbound it. But after a stoppage of play, this cannot be done. Am I correct?

[Splute]

Originally Posted by kblehman

Thanks, fellas. That's what I thought. I don't have my rule book with me here at work, so I'm looking for an example in my case book. At any rate, I now know for sure it's a violation.

Follow-up:
After a made basket by Team A, B1 can grab the ball and throw it to B2 who is also out of bounds on the end line, and B2 can then legally inbound it. But after a stoppage of play, this cannot be done. Am I correct?

If stoppage of play is because of a time out or as described below and the throw-in is still the endline, Team B retains this priviledge.

Rule 7-5-7

Art. 7... After a goal or awarded goal as in 7-4-3, the team not credited with the score shall make the throw-in from the end of the court where the goal was made and from any point outside the end line. A team retains this privilege if the scoring team commits a violation or common foul (before the throw-in ends and before the bonus is in effect) and the ensuing throw-in spot would have been on the end line. Any player of the team may make a direct throw-in or he/she may pass the ball along the end line to a teammate(s) outside the boundary line.

[kblehman]

Originally Posted by Splute

If stoppage of play is because of a time out or as described below and the throw-in is still the endline, Team B retains this priviledge.

Rule 7-5-7

So, basically, if the inbounding team retains the privilege of running the baseline, they can also pass it to a teammate out of bounds first. Is that limited to one out-of-bounds pass?

[Adam]

Originally Posted by kblehman

So, basically, if the inbounding team retains the privilege of running the baseline, they can also pass it to a teammate out of bounds first. Is that limited to one out-of-bounds pass?

You won't find a limit in the rule book.

[Scrapper1]

Originally Posted by Splute

From 06-07 rules

Interesting links. Does one normally have to pay to access the rules this way?

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by Scrapper1

Interesting links. Does one normally have to pay to access the rules this way?

You have to belong to the NFOA. If you're in a "100% participation state", then you're automatically a member.

[JugglingReferee]

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[Scrapper1]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

You have to belong to the NFOA. If you're in a "100% participation state", then you're automatically a member.

I'm not a member, but I can still access the site through the link. I did notice, however, that it's the '06-'07 rulebook.

[stosh]

Here's a different sit:

Ball OOB on the sideline but right at the corner where the endline meets the sideline. Player inbounding the ball steps along the endline - still OOB - before releasing the ball. Just picture the player standing OOB on the sideline at the corner of the court and stepping towards the court but remaining OOB because the foot is on the side of the endline. If the sideline continued past the endline they would have stepped over that extended line.

Because there was no defensive pressure, I let it go but after I thought about it a little, I may have chunked it.

[JugglingReferee]

Originally Posted by stosh

Here's a different sit:

Ball OOB on the sideline but right at the corner where the endline meets the sideline. Player inbounding the ball steps along the endline - still OOB - before releasing the ball. Just picture the player standing OOB on the sideline at the corner of the court and stepping towards the court but remaining OOB because the foot is on the side of the endline. If the sideline continued past the endline they would have stepped over that extended line.

Because there was no defensive pressure, I let it go but after I thought about it a little, I may have chunked it.

I follow ya. I got nutin'.

[LaurelN713]

Originally Posted by stosh

Here's a different sit:

Ball OOB on the sideline but right at the corner where the endline meets the sideline. Player inbounding the ball steps along the endline - still OOB - before releasing the ball. Just picture the player standing OOB on the sideline at the corner of the court and stepping towards the court but remaining OOB because the foot is on the side of the endline. If the sideline continued past the endline they would have stepped over that extended line.

Because there was no defensive pressure, I let it go but after I thought about it a little, I may have chunked it.

You'd be opening up yourself to controversy by calling a violation here; as it is not a good practice but the ball into play from that position. Best thing to do would be to stop play (if there was pressure) and definitively move the thrower to either the sideline or endline allowing for space to make a throw in.