Where to bounce pass the ball....

[RookieDude]

Discussion last night among some officials...
Some officials stated that they bounce pass the ball to all throw-ins except the endline in frontcourt.
They stated that "all three sides except endline frontcourt".
Some said they just bounce pass in the backcourt and when Lead on the frontcourt endline bouncing to player OOB on "their" side from the free throw line down.

Comments?

Dude

[Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.]

Originally posted by RookieDude
Discussion last night among some officials...
Some officials stated that they bounce pass the ball to all throw-ins except the endline in frontcourt.
They stated that "all three sides except endline frontcourt".
Some said they just bounce pass in the backcourt and when Lead on the frontcourt endline bouncing to player OOB on "their" side from the free throw line down.

Comments?

Dude

Both the NFHS and CCA (NCAA) manuals state that the bounce pass can be used on all sideline throw-ins and endline throw-ins in the backcourt.

[Nevadaref]

See #220 in the Officials Manual on page 30 and what is written below diagrams 17 through 22 on pages 32-34.

[Edited by Nevadaref on Dec 15th, 2002 at 11:30 AM]

[JRutledge]

on where you are and what NF Mechanics are followed. We were told by the IHSA not to bounce pass any throw-ins on the endline anymore. I guess they figured out that many officials were leaving the endline too early or just not doing it properly, so they changed it. I am sure there are other states or other jurisdictions that might have made similar changes. But then again, some think the entire world follows the NF Mechanics Manual to the letter. But according to the NF Mechanics, you can bounce the ball on all throw ins. But you might have to check that out with your local associations to confirm what is done in your neck of the woods.

Peace

[dhodges007]

Originally posted by RookieDude
Discussion last night among some officials...
Some officials stated that they bounce pass the ball to all throw-ins except the endline in frontcourt.
They stated that "all three sides except endline frontcourt".
Some said they just bounce pass in the backcourt and when Lead on the frontcourt endline bouncing to player OOB on "their" side from the free throw line down.

Comments?

Dude

I bounce on all three because I can get my angle to see the whole play before I even inbound the ball.

[ChuckElias]

Originally posted by JRutledge
I guess they figured out that many officials were leaving the endline too early

I this this is a very valid point, Jeff. How many times do you see the official stand 10 feet from the endline and bounce it back to the player? I personally think it looks sloppy and lazy. The NBA makes a big deal about officials staying OOB until the throw-in is released, during throwins on the endline in the backcourt.

Chuck

[mick]

Originally posted by RookieDude
Discussion last night among some officials...
Some officials stated that they bounce pass the ball to all throw-ins except the endline in frontcourt.
They stated that "all three sides except endline frontcourt".
Some said they just bounce pass in the backcourt and when Lead on the frontcourt endline bouncing to player OOB on "their" side from the free throw line down.

Comments?

Dude

RookieDude,
I try to bounce both sidelines, and BC end line.
Sideline with pressure, I bounce so I may attain the angle.
Backcourt end line with pressure, I try to never bounce.
Never bounce on front court end line.
Also, I may hand the ball when the player is there and ready.
I do not toss/flip the ball in high school.

mick

When I bounce a ball on the sideline, while I'm backing away and not wanting them to follow me, I say , "Yer good." (while I have a stop sign up).
About 1/2 the time the thrower-in will say, "Thank you."

[RookieDude]

Very good points...thank you for your comments!

Dude

[zebraman]

I'm w/ Mick.

I bounce on the endline in backcourt if no pressure while I give them the stop sign so we don't have the "Pied Piper" effect. I stand next to the thrower on the sideline and then back up right before I bounce it to them. This gives me a wider field of vision and they don't seem to follow me if I back up real quick right before I bounce it to them. I always hand the ball on throw-ins at the frountcourt endline per the NFHS official's manual.

Z

[Rich]

For some reason I find it awkward to bounce the ball on the endline in the backcourt. I've pretty much gone with a handing of the ball on that backline. I don't want to enter the court until the ball does, and handing the ball to the thrower-in assure that I will stay back.

However, I never hand the ball on the sidelines -- except when starting a quarter. I don't know why I make an exception for that particular throw-in, I just do.

This is one area where individuality is OK, as long as you don't bounce on the endline in the frontcourt.

Rich

[BktBallRef]

Bounce on the sides and in the BC.

Hand in the FC on the endline.

We have some very tight sidelines where we also hand the ball.

It's amazing that they wouldn't allow us to bounce it for years.

I predict that we'll one day be able to report numbers with both hands. I do it now in AU games and it's so much simpler. Also, I think that stopping the clock for violations will eventually be eliminated as well.

[mick]

Originally posted by Rich Fronheiser

However, I never hand the ball on the sidelines -- except when starting a quarter. I don't know why I make an exception for that particular throw-in, I just do.

Rich,
Could it be that there is seldom defensive pressure on a quarter-starting throw-in?
mick

[mick]

Originally posted by BktBallRef
Bounce on the sides and in the BC.

I predict that we'll one day be able to report numbers with both hands. I do it now in AU games and it's so much simpler. Also, I think that stopping the clock for violations will eventually be eliminated as well.

Tony,
I have always wondered:

Is it 51 or 15?

Is it 35, 53 or 8?
What are the rules of "Thumb" for using both hands.

mick

[Rich]

....the other night. My partner bounced on the throw-in to start the quarter and I was thinking how silly it looked since there wasn't any pressure.

I base my bouncing decision on whether I think I need to be in a different place to supervise the players. If I like where handing the ball to the thrower-in puts me, I hand it.

Times change, though. Seems like just yesterday that the trail had to come in the lane to adminster ALL free throws.

What's next? Elimination of the bird dog?

Rich

[Mark Dexter]

Originally posted by BktBallRef
Also, I think that stopping the clock for violations will eventually be eliminated as well.

You mean the signal, right, not the clock stoppage itself?

Also, I must admit, I've let 2 hand reports creep into my signals (probably because our numbers range from 00 to 99). It's tough to call 78 for one foul, get used to having both hands up, then call a foul on 32.