Disconcertion Rule...

[JS 20]

Nothing illegal there. Happens all the time here, all the girls teams yell BALL BALL BALL BALL BALL when they're closely guarding someone on the perimiter. It's stupid.

[bigdog5142]

Anyone think I was out of line asking the coach to have the player tone it down a bit? Had it been a close game, I probably would not have said anything. But, IMO, the game was over and it was just pouring salt in wounds...didn't want to have a scrum on my hands.

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by bigdog5142

Anyone think I was out of line asking the coach to have the player tone it down a bit?

Me.

[Junker]

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

Me.

Me too.

[bigdog5142]

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

Me.

...alrighty then...

Guess I kicked it...

[fullor30]

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

Me.

I'm in line behind you.

[grunewar]

Originally Posted by fullor30

I'm in line behind you.

And I behind you fullor!

We've had this discussion on this forum before. Consensus is - no one likes it; it's bothersome and can be annoying; heck, it gives me a headache sometimes - but, it's not against the rules - unfortunately.....

My question to a coach (for my education only) would be this - where did you learn this was an acceptable technique and why do you teach it? Pros, college, HS - don't do it. Why do you think it's ok? JMO

Edit - Also gets into the territory when a player "yells at another" as he goes up for a layup that we've discussed here before too. HEY! or MISS! How loud? In his ear? Unsporting?......T? Not against the rules...

[fullor30]

Originally Posted by grunewar

And I behind you fullor!

We've had this discussion on this forum before. Consensus is - no one likes it; it's bothersome and can be annoying; heck, it gives me a headache sometimes - but, it's not against the rules - unfortunately.....

My question to a coach (for my education only) would be this - where did you learn this was an acceptable technique and why do you teach it? Pros, college, HS - don't do it. Why do you think it's ok? JMO

Edit - Also gets into the territory when a player "yells at another" as he goes up for a layup that we've discussed here before too. HEY! or MISS! How loud? In his ear? Unsporting?......T? Not against the rules...

Ball, ball, ball, is taught to let weak side defender with back to ball know where ball is, similar to dead, dead, dead, when defense, especially help lines are tightened.

That said, annoying.

[crazy voyager]

No you are correct no swedish word looks like that
The player was german though...
Anyhow, as Four-Oh already said, things might be diffrent in FIBA
38.1.2 Each team shall do its best to secure victory, but this must be done in the spirit of sportsmanship and fair play.
38.1.3 Any deliberate or repeated non-cooperation or non-compliance with the spirit of this rule shall be considered as a technical foul.
38.3 Definition
38.3.1 A technical foul is a player non-contact foul of a behavioural nature including, but not limited to:
....
• Baiting an opponent or obstructing his vision by waving his hands near his eyes.
....

And from the link Four-oh posted

Statement 3:
While a player is in the act of shooting for goal, opponents shall not be permitted to disconcert that player by actions such as waving a hand(s) to obstruct the shooter’s field of vision, shouting loudly, stamping feet heavily or clapping hands near the shooter. To do so may result in a
technical foul if the shooter is disadvantaged by the action, or a warning if the shooter is not disadvantaged.
Example
A4 is in the act of shooting for a goal when B4 attempts to distract A4 by shouting loudly or stamping feet heavily of the floor. The shot for goal is:
(a) Successful
(b) Unsuccessful.
Interpretation:
(a) A warning shall be given to B4 and shall be communicated to coach B. This warning shall apply to all players of team B for the remainder of the game for similar behaviour.
(b) A technical foul shall be charged to B4.

The shot she made was unsucessful.
The defensive players actions were acording to me unsportsmanlike. They were not in the spirit of the game and they were a violation of the articles regarding technical fouls. And the shooter was disadvantaged by her actions.
This is when I call the game a technical foul, if it is everywhere in the world I can't say, but that was a foul I would call another 100 times if it came up

[Coltdoggs]

Agree with Sam and JS...annoying as all hell but perfectly legal.

[Flexbelt83]

what if instead of hey hey hey, it was just screaming, like really really loud screaming, right in their ear, point blank? Or maybe not even point blank, just screaming?

[crazy voyager]

I have only T'd for yelling once and that was a player runing out towards a 3 point shotter yelling AAAAA. She had no chance of getting there in time and it was obvious it was only to distract the shooter... easy T
But in your case, ask her to tone it down, but I think it has to go VERY far to warrant a T

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by crazy voyager

I have only T'd for yelling once and that was a player runing out towards a 3 point shotter yelling AAAAA. She had no chance of getting there in time and it was obvious it was only to distract the shooter... easy T

(unless AAAAA is a dirty word in Swedish)

[mbyron]

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

(unless AAAAA is a dirty word in Swedish)

As I understand it, no Swedish word has repeated vowels (SAAB is an acronym).

[texaspaul]

...scream all you want, just don't face guard......