Disconcertion Rule...

[fullor30]

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

Me.

I'm in line behind you.

[rsox34]

...there is no rule that prohibits a player from "screaming" or "yelling" during the scenarios (try for goal) cited in this thread. It may be annoying, but it is not illegal.

This is not a new phenomenon--Players have been doing this forever/probably more on the girls side than boys.

[grunewar]

Originally Posted by fullor30

I'm in line behind you.

And I behind you fullor!

We've had this discussion on this forum before. Consensus is - no one likes it; it's bothersome and can be annoying; heck, it gives me a headache sometimes - but, it's not against the rules - unfortunately.....

My question to a coach (for my education only) would be this - where did you learn this was an acceptable technique and why do you teach it? Pros, college, HS - don't do it. Why do you think it's ok? JMO

Edit - Also gets into the territory when a player "yells at another" as he goes up for a layup that we've discussed here before too. HEY! or MISS! How loud? In his ear? Unsporting?......T? Not against the rules...

[Four-Oh]

Originally Posted by rsox34

...there is no rule that prohibits a player from "screaming" or "yelling" during the scenarios (try for goal) cited in this thread. It may be annoying, but it is not illegal.

This is not a new phenomenon--Players have been doing this forever/probably more on the girls side than boys.

I thought I remembered something about this when they started changing rulesets here (ON).

In FIBA play, according to Statement 3 regarding the Technical Foul rule (Art. 38) in their Official Interpetations document (page 13, see link below), such behaviour is illegal and should be penalized with a TF if the attempt is unsuccesful, or with an official warning to the team if successful.
http://www.fiba.com/downloads/Rules/04_rules_int.pdf

Still happy that most of my games use Fed.!

Andrew

[fullor30]

Originally Posted by grunewar

And I behind you fullor!

We've had this discussion on this forum before. Consensus is - no one likes it; it's bothersome and can be annoying; heck, it gives me a headache sometimes - but, it's not against the rules - unfortunately.....

My question to a coach (for my education only) would be this - where did you learn this was an acceptable technique and why do you teach it? Pros, college, HS - don't do it. Why do you think it's ok? JMO

Edit - Also gets into the territory when a player "yells at another" as he goes up for a layup that we've discussed here before too. HEY! or MISS! How loud? In his ear? Unsporting?......T? Not against the rules...

Ball, ball, ball, is taught to let weak side defender with back to ball know where ball is, similar to dead, dead, dead, when defense, especially help lines are tightened.

That said, annoying.

[bigdog5142]

Originally Posted by rsox34

...there is no rule that prohibits a player from "screaming" or "yelling" during the scenarios (try for goal) cited in this thread. It may be annoying, but it is not illegal.

This is not a new phenomenon--Players have been doing this forever/probably more on the girls side than boys.

FYI, I am not in the practice of "making up my own rules." I mis-applied the free throw disconcertion rule. Honest mistake. In the future, I will allow this annoying behavior as it is not against the rules...

[crazy voyager]

No you are correct no swedish word looks like that
The player was german though...
Anyhow, as Four-Oh already said, things might be diffrent in FIBA
38.1.2 Each team shall do its best to secure victory, but this must be done in the spirit of sportsmanship and fair play.
38.1.3 Any deliberate or repeated non-cooperation or non-compliance with the spirit of this rule shall be considered as a technical foul.
38.3 Definition
38.3.1 A technical foul is a player non-contact foul of a behavioural nature including, but not limited to:
....
• Baiting an opponent or obstructing his vision by waving his hands near his eyes.
....

And from the link Four-oh posted

Statement 3:
While a player is in the act of shooting for goal, opponents shall not be permitted to disconcert that player by actions such as waving a hand(s) to obstruct the shooter’s field of vision, shouting loudly, stamping feet heavily or clapping hands near the shooter. To do so may result in a
technical foul if the shooter is disadvantaged by the action, or a warning if the shooter is not disadvantaged.
Example
A4 is in the act of shooting for a goal when B4 attempts to distract A4 by shouting loudly or stamping feet heavily of the floor. The shot for goal is:
(a) Successful
(b) Unsuccessful.
Interpretation:
(a) A warning shall be given to B4 and shall be communicated to coach B. This warning shall apply to all players of team B for the remainder of the game for similar behaviour.
(b) A technical foul shall be charged to B4.

The shot she made was unsucessful.
The defensive players actions were acording to me unsportsmanlike. They were not in the spirit of the game and they were a violation of the articles regarding technical fouls. And the shooter was disadvantaged by her actions.
This is when I call the game a technical foul, if it is everywhere in the world I can't say, but that was a foul I would call another 100 times if it came up