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Old Thu Jan 17, 2008, 04:56pm
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I think your partner should have called a T on the bench in general, give the head coach an indirect with the seatbelt, and get the ball into play for the shots as quickly as possible. If all three refs are paying attention to the bench to help prevent further outbursts, and the ball gets back into play, sometimes , sometimes these sorts of messes can be prevented.
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Old Thu Jan 17, 2008, 05:16pm
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....... get the ball into play for the shots as quickly as possible. If all three refs are paying attention to the bench to help prevent further outbursts, and the ball gets back into play, sometimes , sometimes these sorts of messes can be prevented.
Yep, I'm a firm believer that bad things tend to happen when the ball is dead....
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Old Thu Jan 17, 2008, 05:37pm
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Yep, I'm a firm believer that bad things tend to happen when the ball is dead....
Or even when it's live ......... Over the years, I've tried to develop a 'deaf ear' (not too difficult for me, since my hearing IS diminished), but in certain situations, such as the OP, it seems that if the poster could've just "not heard" the remark, things would've been much better......Once they've "gotten my attention", then we've got a whole new situation.
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Old Thu Jan 17, 2008, 05:45pm
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Or even when it's live ......... Over the years, I've tried to develop a 'deaf ear' (not too difficult for me, since my hearing IS diminished), but in certain situations, such as the OP, it seems that if the poster could've just "not heard" the remark, things would've been much better......Once they've "gotten my attention", then we've got a whole new situation.
You're kidding, right?
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Old Thu Jan 17, 2008, 05:55pm
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Or even when it's live ......... Over the years, I've tried to develop a 'deaf ear' (not too difficult for me, since my hearing IS diminished), but in certain situations, such as the OP, it seems that if the poster could've just "not heard" the remark, things would've been much better......Once they've "gotten my attention", then we've got a whole new situation.
Most definitely we don't want to have rabbit ears, but each of the comments in the OP deserve to be assessed with a technical foul.
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Old Thu Jan 17, 2008, 05:57pm
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but in certain situations, such as the OP, it seems that if the poster could've just "not heard" the remark, things would've been much better.......
No, things would be much worse. You just showed the whole bench, the opposing team, your partners and everybody in the crowd that could hear that remark that you are severely lacking in testicular fortitude.

Saying that any official should ever ignore demeaning, profane remarks like that is absolutely ridiculous. Methinks that this officiating racket is not really meant for you, podner.
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Or even when it's live ......... Over the years, I've tried to develop a 'deaf ear' (not too difficult for me, since my hearing IS diminished), but in certain situations, such as the OP, it seems that if the poster could've just "not heard" the remark, things would've been much better......Once they've "gotten my attention", then we've got a whole new situation.
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Old Thu Jan 17, 2008, 10:31pm
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Or even when it's live ......... Over the years, I've tried to develop a 'deaf ear' (not too difficult for me, since my hearing IS diminished), but in certain situations, such as the OP, it seems that if the poster could've just "not heard" the remark, things would've been much better......Once they've "gotten my attention", then we've got a whole new situation.
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Old Thu Jan 17, 2008, 11:26pm
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Or even when it's live ......... Over the years, I've tried to develop a 'deaf ear' (not too difficult for me, since my hearing IS diminished), but in certain situations, such as the OP, it seems that if the poster could've just "not heard" the remark, things would've been much better......Once they've "gotten my attention", then we've got a whole new situation.

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Old Fri Jan 18, 2008, 12:07am
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My sentiments exactly Mark. In the situation in the OP there was no real viable option. When this crap happens it's best to just take care of business - saves a lot of grief in the long run..........
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Or even when it's live ......... Over the years, I've tried to develop a 'deaf ear' (not too difficult for me, since my hearing IS diminished), but in certain situations, such as the OP, it seems that if the poster could've just "not heard" the remark, things would've been much better......Once they've "gotten my attention", then we've got a whole new situation.
No, things would've been EASIER. And an unsportsmanlike and flagrant F-bomb would've gone unrecognized and unpunished.

My only problem would be knowing if the comment came from the bench or out of the stands. If it's clear it's from the bench, I think a bench technical is quite appropriate and NFHS rules clearly allow this. If I'm not sure it's from the bench, I'm probably getting it in play as quickly as possible.
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Old Thu Jan 17, 2008, 05:30pm
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We were all over the original call. The calling official reported the foul and answered a very calm question from the head coach, which apparently one of the assistants did not like the response. As he went to report the technical he began to second guess his rules knowledge (he's almost too familiar with NCAA rules, specifically NCAAW) and was unsure of the NFHS rule if any on bench technicals. The rest happened very quickly, the second technical was unavoidable, the assistant got in the lead's path on the court as he was coming to get the trail out of there (trail was already leaving) Our conversation then took place past center court opposite the bench. On the tape you can clearly see the assistant (unfortunately not hear him) step towards us and throw his hands up in our direction. I agree that often a mess can be contained to the original problem but this was an avalanche of dumbness. Fortunately I didn't have to explain anything, as I had said in the OP, once I walked over from our huddle, the bench had calmed down and the head coach was already walking out of the gym. During our conversation afterwards we were unable to find the rule which would allow a bench technical.
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