Blowout becomes a mess

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by CJRef

... the other thing that crossed the R's mind was that the f-bomb does not merit an automatic flagrant in our area. ...We were doing a disservice to our fellow officials that work HS games on a regular basis.

Your R is crazy. Your final thought is correct.

Originally Posted by CJRef

What if the head coach hadn't gone along with your request? Now you're threatening a forefit, which would be allowable if they were failing to comply with a technical foul. But in my opinion you haven't issued a valid technical at that point (not on a specific person) and you've also issued an invalid ultimatum. Granted at this point there's no NFHS rules concerning this.

Three things:
1. I never said that I would forfeit the game. I said that I would suspend the contest and file a report. I can make an educated guess that the state office woud forfeit the game.
2. If the HC doesn't comply just pin the FTF on one of the three individuals that you believe said it. Afterall it is your decision who you believe is the culprit as the official is the arbiter of facts for the game. Then make sure to put it all in the report.
3. Yeah, it's not definitely covered, so 2-3 could be used to justify any reasonable decision.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by Rodical

Or even when it's live ......... Over the years, I've tried to develop a 'deaf ear' (not too difficult for me, since my hearing IS diminished), but in certain situations, such as the OP, it seems that if the poster could've just "not heard" the remark, things would've been much better......Once they've "gotten my attention", then we've got a whole new situation.

No, things would've been EASIER. And an unsportsmanlike and flagrant F-bomb would've gone unrecognized and unpunished.

My only problem would be knowing if the comment came from the bench or out of the stands. If it's clear it's from the bench, I think a bench technical is quite appropriate and NFHS rules clearly allow this. If I'm not sure it's from the bench, I'm probably getting it in play as quickly as possible.

[RCBSports]

Originally Posted by johnnyrao

Just curious: If A only had three coaches, and this situation happens, would it be an automatic forfeit since they no longer have anyone available to coach? Can a school administrator take over?

I thought if the Head Coach was ejected, he is gone; the assist coach is left in charge, but he is STILL the assist coach? We is not allowed to get up and all that other crap that goes with it as being an assist.

We had a problem like that not too long ago where the head coach was ejected in the first quarter and the asst. coach had to finish the game, but he couldn't stand or anything because he was the asst?

Let me know if I am right or wrong or way off topic?!?

[Rich]

Originally Posted by RCBSports

Yea, during a youth league I was working, I called a T on a coach saying that I was a F'en idiot, I called the T and him and I got into a little dispute. Afterwords, my partner told me after calling a T get away from the area. Take another spot. If they have a question, they can call a timeout and ask politely, if not, after the games works as well.

But yea, the whole problem had to suck. I hate when things go like that. I would handle it like this. Since we don't have a Bench T I would call an indirect T on the coach; next I would have both coaches report to the table and lay down the ground rules. I would say "Ok, I want this game under control. I don't want to hear another word out of anyones mouth. If you have a question, ask, but don't shout or course."

After words, call a tight game. Calling a tight game early normally gets rid of all problems during the second half. Let me know what you guys think.

Thanks

He called you what?

Boom, gone, thanks for coming, parting gifts on the way to the car.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by RCBSports

I thought if the Head Coach was ejected, he is gone; the assist coach is left in charge, but he is STILL the assist coach? We is not allowed to get up and all that other crap that goes with it as being an assist.

We had a problem like that not too long ago where the head coach was ejected in the first quarter and the asst. coach had to finish the game, but he couldn't stand or anything because he was the asst?

Let me know if I am right or wrong or way off topic?!?

Huh?

In most "coaching box" states, the HC is seatbelted after receiving a direct or indirect technical foul. So if the HC got ejected, someone has to fill the role, but he doesn't get a coaching box because the technical foul earlier removed the box for the team for the game. That is, unless your state has gone off in a different direction from the NFHS.

[RCBSports]

Originally Posted by RichMSN

Huh?

In most "coaching box" states, the HC is seatbelted after receiving a direct or indirect technical foul. So if the HC got ejected, someone has to fill the role, but he doesn't get a coaching box because the technical foul earlier removed the box for the team for the game. That is, unless your state has gone off in a different direction from the NFHS.

It wouldn't surprise me if my state has. But I know after the first T they are benched, the second they are gone. But I knew the asst coach took over, but he was still benched b/c he is still asst but just having to finish the game. I dunno, I will contact one of our board members and see what he has to say.

Thanks