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Originally Posted by CJRef
Girls Varsity. Team A is up by 20, wants an intentional called with 8 seconds left, doesn't get it. Trail is right in front of A's bench. Trail hears a male voice yell "You're un****ing believable" from the bench. Could not have been the players (girls), trainer or head coach (women), no spectators behind the bench, so it leaves one the three male assistants. Trail spins around instantly but all three have their poker faces on. Trail blows whistle, walks to table and announces a T on the head coach, she then loses it. By now the lead is over at the table to get him out of there but before he does, head coach says "How can you call that on me, I didn't say it" to which the trail tells the head coach she's in charge of the bench, that's why she picked it up. As that is happening, one of the assistants gets in the way and says "get this dumbass (unfortunately I'm pretty sure he was referring to my partner) out of here". I'm now over in the area while trying to keep on eye on the players. As my partners are coming to meet with me away from the bench, I hear another one of the assistants yell directly at us "What a f***ing joke". We discuss that we now have two more technicals and an ejection. I go to report what we have, the bench all of a sudden calmed down, coach leaves, we shoot the free throws and finish the game.
The whole thing took us by surprise since they hadn't said a word the entire game and the foul they wanted was for an accidental jersey grab.
Afterwards we discussed the situation at length and discussed variations and other questions. What is the most effective way to deal with a bench issue that merits a technical but cannot be attributed to an individual? Would you have a flagrant for the original comment?
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I have closely perused the NFHS and NCAA Men's/Women's rules and it is my humble oppinion that these situations are handled the same both sets of rules.
Addressing your
first situation is to charge the HC-A with a Direct TF. Not withstanding my position concerning Team Captains, the Head Coach is the one, by rule, that receives either a Direct TF or Indirect TF's for TF's committed by Bench Personnel. When the official does not know which Bench Personnel member committed the unsportsmanlike conduct, the Head Coach is the one that is holding the short straw and has to receive a Direct TF. The problem I have in this situation is that F-bombs, in my humble opinion, are Flagrant TF's; and I would like to be charging the Bench Personnel member who actually dropped the F-bomb to receive the Direct TF that is a Flagrant TF.
Addressing your
second situation: This is definitely a Direct TF against the A1C-A (and if HC-A's Direct TF was not a Flagrant TF, then we have an Indirect TF against HC-A; one Direct TF and one Indirect TF, if you are keeping score at home) and if I would be very very inclined to consider A1C-A's TF a Flagrant TF.
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third situation: This is definitely a Direct TF against the A2C-A and is most definitely Flagrant TF (and if HC-A's Direct TF was not a Flagrant TF, then we have an Indirect TF against HC-A; one Direct TF and two Indirect TF's, if you are keeping score at home). This means HC-A is disqualified and ejected for having one Direct TF and two Indirect TF's.
Therefore: HC-A is disqualified and ejected for accumulating one Direct TF and two Indirect TF's; A1C-A is ejected for receiving one Direct TF which was a Flagrant TF; and A2C-A is ejected for receiving one Direct TF which was a Flagrant TF. Team B will shoot six (6) free throws. AND now comes the fun part: Who gets the ball for the throw-in after the free throws are shot and from what spot is the throw-in taken. It appears that for once all three Rules codes agree: Team B gets the ball for a throw-in at the division line opposite the Scorer's/Timer's Table.
Having written all I have written and I was the R, I would poll my partners as to whether we should just forfeit the game to Team B rathing than shoot all of those free throws because the Team A's coaching staff had obviously lost their composure to say the least.
MTD, Sr.