Traveling, Held Ball or... Both?

[Nevadaref]

In the first case play the player in control desired to release the ball, but was prevented from doing so by an opponent's contact with the ball, thus the held ball decision.

In the second case the player with the ball did not attempt to release the ball, the touching of it by an opponent is not important, thus the traveling violation.

[inigo montoya]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

In the first case play the player in control desired to release the ball, but was prevented from doing so by an opponent's contact with the ball, thus the held ball decision.

In the second case the player with the ball did not attempt to release the ball, the touching of it by an opponent is not important, thus the traveling violation.

Not trying to pick a fight, just to understand.

In the second case play, A1 desired to release the ball because he "jumps to try for goal." That's why I'm concerned about a judgment for "what did the offense 'want' to do."

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by inigo montoya

In the second case play, A1 desired to release the ball because he "jumps to try for goal." That's why I'm concerned about a judgment for "what did the offense 'want' to do."

Perhaps he changed his mind after jumping.
I had a play last week in which a player (A1) went airborne looking to throw a pass, however, none of his teammates were open and he clearly held onto the ball too long and was coming back down with it. An opponent (B1) who had also jumped to defend the play barely touched the ball. The touch by B1 had no effect on what A1 was doing with the ball, so I called a travel when A1 landed while still holding the ball. Just because an opponent happened to make contact with the ball doesn't absolve A1 of wrong-doing and automatically make the play a held ball.

[BillyMac]

When an airborne player keeps control of an attempted shot that is blocked and is unable to release the ball and returns to the floor with it, that player has not traveled; it is a jump ball. If, in this situation, the shooter releases the ball, then this is simply a blocked shot and play continues.