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Old Fri Jan 11, 2008, 12:02am
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Technical Foul Definitions

In an NCAA rules (W) game, what warrants and ejection of the coach on technical fouls.

The rulebook states 2 direct fouls, 1 direct and 2 indirect, or 3 indirect.

The question is, when is a technical foul indirectly assessed to the Head Coach.

In a game recently, the opposing team compiled 3 total techs. One on the coach, and 2 on the players.

Now this wasn't realized by the officiating crew, and wasn't discovered until well after the game that this may have resulted in the ejection of the coach. Rule 10-2-12 states:

EJECTION: All technical fouls from section 3 (player/substitue technicals) and 4 (Bench Technicals) shall apply toward ejection when the following have been assessed. 'see above'. When the foul is charged to the offender (if not the head coach) as a direct technical foul, it is also charged as an INDIRECT technical foul to the head coach. When the head coach is the offender, the foul is charged directly to him.

Now since the coach had one already, and the players each received direct techs, and according to the excerpt: When the foul is charged to the offender (if not the head coach) as a direct technical foul, it is also charged as an INDIRECT technical foul to the head coach., is this grounds for ejection.

It is too late now since the game is well over, but if it is indeed grounds for ejection, should it also be reported to the conference for the mandatory 1 game suspension to be handed out?

I thought this would be the best place to ask such an intricate question
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Old Fri Jan 11, 2008, 12:43am
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This is a bit confusing since Rule 10 was completely reworked for the NCAA Women only. In fact they have since came out with a bulletin to further explain and correct some of the wording of the penalty section.

EJECTION: All technical fouls from Sections 3 (Player/
Substitute Technicals) and 4 (Bench Technicals) shall apply
toward ejection when the following have been assessed: a
maximum of two DIRECT technical fouls, a combination of
one DIRECT technical foul and two INDIRECT technical
fouls or three INDIRECT technical fouls.

This is referring to the combination of indirect/direct that the player/substitute can get before ejection


When the foul is charged to the offender (if not the head coach) as a direct
technical foul, it is also charged as an INDIRECT technical
foul to the head coach. When the head coach is the offender,
the foul is charged directly to him.


This section is referring to Bench Technicals that are being charged directly to the bench personnel. If it charged directly to bench personnel other then the Head coach then they are also charged indirectly to the Head Coach which would also count toward ejection


You were taking the penalties out of context and reading it as one entire penalty.

Player/Substitute "T's" are charged only to the player/Substitute. Bench "T's" are charged directly to the bench personnel and indirectly to the head coach.

So if there were 2 player "T's" they wouldn't count toward ejection to the Head Coach unless those players were bench personnel when the "T" was called.

So if the Head Coach got 1 Direct "T" & then 2 bench players got "T's" then the coach should've been ejected. If the players weren't bench personnel then they wouldn't count toward the coaches ejection.
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Old Fri Jan 11, 2008, 12:51am
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Pardon me for trying to get it right and trying my best not to sound dumb :P

But just to clarify: Player/Substitute refers only to the five on court players? While the players on the bench are considered 'bench personnel'?
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Old Fri Jan 11, 2008, 01:04am
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Pardon me for trying to get it right and trying my best not to sound dumb :P

But just to clarify: Player/Substitute refers only to the five on court players? While the players on the bench are considered 'bench personnel'?
Player is 5 on the floor and substitute is the substitute coming in the game.

Art. 12. A substitute entering the playing court without reporting to the
scorers or without being beckoned onto the playing court by an official
(unless during an intermission).



Bench personnel are all of the personnel on the bench.

I'm going to post a link that I hope you can open...

https://www.eofficials.com/ESO_Repos...men%20Only.pdf

This is the bulletin that came out earlier in the season with corrections.
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Old Fri Jan 11, 2008, 01:13am
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Player is 5 on the floor and substitute is the substitute coming in the game.

Art. 12. A substitute entering the playing court without reporting to the
scorers or without being beckoned onto the playing court by an official
(unless during an intermission).



Bench personnel are all of the personnel on the bench.

I'm going to post a link that I hope you can open...

https://www.eofficials.com/ESO_Repos...men%20Only.pdf

This is the bulletin that came out earlier in the season with corrections.
Wow, that section really did indeed need to be re-written. Unfortunatly as a NJCAA school we weren't notified of such a drastic change. Thank you very much for this clarification. I'm glad I didn't say anything during the game because the way it was written in the book I would've for sure told the officials to eject the coach
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Old Fri Jan 11, 2008, 01:17am
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I agree that the clarification is good! In defense of the rule book, most of us know what the penalty/ejection section was saying and what & how it was meant to be enforced.
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