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Old Wed Jan 09, 2008, 04:37pm
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Somebody here (that person will probably identify himself) said something like:
It's okay to reach out of your primary to point out an elephant on the court, but be sure it's an elephant.

Along these lines, I have said, if you reach across the court to call one right in front of your partner, even if you're right, it kinda makes the crew look bad. If you make this call and you're wrong, it is unforgivable.

IOW, better to say, "What elephant?" than to say, "Look, an elephant!" but it turns out to be a hippopotamus.
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Old Wed Jan 09, 2008, 05:01pm
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First off the line is:

If you go fishing in your partner's pond it better be for a whale and not a minnow.

Second, as described this play ISN'T squarely in leads primary, it occurs at the FT line area so it's in that overlap area. IMO, as described, trail had the better look AND the play is coming from trails primary and the contact occurs where the primaries meet...this isn't a case of a deep trail calling a B/C in leads corner.
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Old Thu Jan 10, 2008, 08:51am
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Originally Posted by blindzebra
Second, as described this play ISN'T squarely in leads primary, it occurs at the FT line area so it's in that overlap area.
I think that you and I are reading this play differently. The original post says

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"towards the basket on the opposite side in front of the lead. I'm the T trailing the play. A2 dribbler contacts B1 at lane line"
It doesn't say "FT line", as you mention in your post. I'm seeing this contact as being on or very near the block, right in front of the lead. In that case, I'm leaving it alone.

If I'm wrong and your reading is right -- the contact is at the FT line -- then I'm more than happy to put a whistle on that.

Also (and this is not directed at blindzebra), somebody said that making this call keeps your partner and the crew out of trouble. I disagree completely. This is the only kind of play where coaches actually care about PCA's. "How can you call that from there!?!?! It's right in front of him!!!!" It makes it look like you're reaching -- which you are -- and it makes it look like your partner is inept.
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Old Wed Jan 09, 2008, 05:54pm
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Originally Posted by just another ref
Somebody here (that person will probably identify himself) said something like:
It's okay to reach out of your primary to point out an elephant on the court, but be sure it's an elephant.

Along these lines, I have said, if you reach across the court to call one right in front of your partner, even if you're right, it kinda makes the crew look bad. If you make this call and you're wrong, it is unforgivable.

IOW, better to say, "What elephant?" than to say, "Look, an elephant!" but it turns out to be a hippopotamus.
I have said on this board that if you are going to call out of your area, it better be an elephant rather than an ant. Leave the ants alone and get the elephants. BTW, this is just a repeated phrase, I did not originate it.

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Old Wed Jan 09, 2008, 06:00pm
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I have said on this board that if you are going to call out of your area, it better be an elephant rather than an ant. Leave the ants alone and get the elephants. BTW, this is just a repeated phrase, I did not originate it.

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Figured it was an old saying. Wherever it came from, the idea is sound.
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