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Old Sun Dec 30, 2007, 06:20pm
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I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt and assume this is a joke. Still - it's not funny.
Mark, I made an assumption that it was over-the-top enough to be obviously funny, in a "modest proposal" sort of way. I stand by that assumption.
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Old Sun Dec 30, 2007, 09:22pm
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I had a play where A1 was going in for a layup. B1 was chasing. A1 faked the shot B1 went up and slapped the backboard, he was initially trying to block a shot but at the time of him hitting the backboard there was no shot and the ball was still in the hands of A1. Then A1 shot and made the basket. T or no T? I did not T B1.
I'm sure some of you veterans have observed the practice of some players after making an easy put back slap the board. I T this activity as i feel they are calling attention to themselves. What do you think?
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Old Sun Dec 30, 2007, 09:40pm
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I'm sure some of you veterans have observed the practice of some players after making an easy put back slap the board. I T this activity as i feel they are calling attention to themselves. What do you think?
Definite T in my game.
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Old Sun Dec 30, 2007, 09:53pm
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I don't see this, so I have to assume officials before me have T'd the behavior.
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Old Sun Dec 30, 2007, 09:55pm
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Yeah, but slapping them is more effective.
Agreed. Slapping that butt is much more effective.
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Old Mon Dec 31, 2007, 03:45am
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I have to say that even for a lawyer this is over the top.
Have you actually read what you wrote?

Maybe it is, maybe it isn't... so it could be...but perhaps not...
Is there any conclusion in there at all?
Yeah, ok. Did you see how late that post was? Cut me some slack...
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Old Mon Dec 31, 2007, 11:46am
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I agree with you in your play. In the OP, it's hard to tell whether the slap was just an unavoidable follow through, and how hard a slap it was. Would you ever no-call the defender putting his hand on the backboard after a fake?
I find it almost impossible to imagine a varsity or higher player not having ability enough to NOT SLAP the backboard if another player fakes a shot (a "pump fake"). He (no misogyny intended -- the players who slap the backboard are almost always male) might be faked out enough to touch the backboard, or might miss a ball in the air and slap the backboard.

I'd have a T in the original play 99.5% of the time.
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He (no misogyny intended -- the players who slap the backboard are almost always male) might be faked out enough to touch the backboard, or might miss a ball in the air and slap the backboard.

I'd have a T in the original play 99.5% of the time.
No misogyny inferred. You're right. Girls and women not only aren't as tall, they generally don't play the kind of game that would ever include the chance to slap. Not that it never happens, just much, much less likely.

I'm glad to hear your assessment of varsity abilities. As I'm going to be doing more boys' games (sooner or later), I want to have a handle on what's generally done and not done, possible and not possible, called and not called. If I do some of the theoretical groundwork now, it increases my learning curve.

Another question, do you (or any other forum people) ever interpret a board slap as an attempt to maintain balance or to control the body and be safe? I've seen times in college ball on TV where it looked like the player was simply trying to steady or "right" themselves, usually on a block attempt where they missed the ball, but sometimes just a high flying defensive maneuver that goes awry. Generally, these don't seem so much like slaps, so perhaps that's the category. Just wondering.
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Old Mon Dec 31, 2007, 12:05pm
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I find it almost impossible to imagine a varsity or higher player not having ability enough to NOT SLAP the backboard if another player fakes a shot (a "pump fake"). He (no misogyny intended -- the players who slap the backboard are almost always male) might be faked out enough to touch the backboard, or might miss a ball in the air and slap the backboard.

I'd have a T in the original play 99.5% of the time.
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Old Mon Dec 31, 2007, 05:37pm
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Generally, these don't seem so much like slaps, so perhaps that's the category. Just wondering.
Right. "Slap" < > "Touch"

(although an inappropriate touch can get you a slap, or so I've heard. )
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