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Old Sat Dec 22, 2007, 10:24pm
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Anyone watching?

69-67, ~ 5 minutes to play. Bruce Pearl, Coach, Tenn, steps out of the coaches box (after being warned earlier in the game) in the heat of the moment by a foot or so, exerting his team to play good D. Whack! Ref 'T's him. Announcer said, "that's an embarrassment to college basketball." Announcers said, ref should understand "the intent of the rule."

Pearl of course becomes unglued, comes on the court, uses several explitives, and of course - no T here.

Overall, good game!
I did not see the game. Based on what you just described, the Hank Nichols said this is how he wanted it called. If he had been warned and then violated the rule that is how they wanted it called. And Jim Boehiem of Syracuse who is the chairperson (or President) of the National Association of College Coaches claimed that is how they wanted this called without consideration to the game or the time of the game. If coaches do not like the way it is called, change the philosophy. The officials are being asked to call it this way and apparently the official did just what he was told. Do I agree with that philosophy? Of course I do not, but that is how they want it called and if you want to continue to work games, you do what you are told.

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Old Sun Dec 23, 2007, 12:03am
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I did not see the game. Based on what you just described, the Hank Nichols said this is how he wanted it called. If he had been warned and then violated the rule that is how they wanted it called. And Jim Boehiem of Syracuse who is the chairperson (or President) of the National Association of College Coaches claimed that is how they wanted this called without consideration to the game or the time of the game. If coaches do not like the way it is called, change the philosophy. The officials are being asked to call it this way and apparently the official did just what he was told. Do I agree with that philosophy? Of course I do not, but that is how they want it called and if you want to continue to work games, you do what you are told.

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Exactly!!! Even if we disagree with the whole thats the rule we enforce if we want to work.
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Old Mon Dec 24, 2007, 06:26pm
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Exactly!!! Even if we disagree with the whole thats the rule we enforce if we want to work.
The media does hate it. Whether it is a POE or not, every one of my supervisors told us that there would be severe penalties for not calling this. At the lower levels we have been told that we will get games taken away for not enforcing: 1 warning to be marked in book when out of box to coach, auto-T on second offense. Auto-T for criticizing officials out of the box. I'm more interetsed in what the observers noted if there was that kind of reaciton to the first T. I have yet to see a coach get warned for coaching out of the box yet, and only a couple for exiting the box to address (undress) an official. They've been very aware and compliant in the games I've worked, which has been a pleasant surprise.
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Old Mon Dec 24, 2007, 10:50pm
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The media does hate it. Whether it is a POE or not, every one of my supervisors told us that there would be severe penalties for not calling this. At the lower levels we have been told that we will get games taken away for not enforcing: 1 warning to be marked in book when out of box to coach, auto-T on second offense. Auto-T for criticizing officials out of the box. I'm more interetsed in what the observers noted if there was that kind of reaciton to the first T. I have yet to see a coach get warned for coaching out of the box yet, and only a couple for exiting the box to address (undress) an official. They've been very aware and compliant in the games I've worked, which has been a pleasant surprise.
Likewise. The coaches I have had so far have been good with. I only had to warn a coach once in D3 game. I had a play were a little guy got rejected from behind by a big guy and the coach, staying in his box came walking down and was voicing his displeasure. I warned him and that was it didn't say much. The coaches that find it the hardest and really don't think it relates to them is the JC coaches. There was a situation where my partner got a coach from bench decorum and stepped out i guess. Good T. Thing i hated was that I was right in front of the bench going from Trail to new lead and partner is the C and sticks him from a cross. I didn't see anything since I wasn't looking at his bench of him, just players transitioning down the court. But I did see my partner get him though . Sp after that he tells my partner it doesn't apply to JC and all that. Well as long JC's are under the NCAA i think does. LOL!!!
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Old Tue Dec 25, 2007, 12:48pm
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The think I noticed most in this game was the fact that one of the officials was noticeably limping around. Unfortunately, it looked as if something was wrong with his hip. Nevertheless, I'm sure there is a capable official in their conference who can make it up and down the court.
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