My crew kicked it...

[IREFU2]

Originally Posted by rgncjn

Boys Varsity - Two 5-0 teams who are expected to finish 1st and 2nd in the league. Team A (Home) makes a three-point shot with 6 seconds remaining to send the game into overtime at 62-62.

In overtime, Team A is fouled and will attempt two free throws. Team A is down by 2, 67-64, with 3.4 seconds remaining.

The first attempt is good, 67-65. The second shot is what made things interesting. The shooter, who we will call A1, throws the ball off the backboard and our C (I am lead) immediately whistles the violation. HOWEVER, after the ball hit the backboard, it then bounced off the rim and directly to A3 who made a layup.

All three of us saw the ball hit the backboard, and the C was upset that he made the "anticipation call" before the entire play ended. Here is what we came up with... AP Arrow for the resumption of play, which favored Team A. Team A missed the last shot and lost the game, 67-65.

I was personally disappointed that the game ended the way it did. Who knows if Team A would have actually secured the rebound after the second shot. We'll be ready to go tomorrow.

Was the AP Arrow, in fact, the correct procedure to resume play?

Edit: to correct scoring information

I think they should put this under 9-1-3b, "faking" a free throw. When you intentional throw the ball off the backboard while lined up for a free throw, it should be considered faking. Just MHO.....

[williebfree]

Originally Posted by IREFU2

I think they should put this under 9-1-3b, "faking" a free throw. When you intentional throw the ball off the backboard while lined up for a free throw, it should be considered faking. Just MHO.....

This is an EXTREMELY liberal interpretation of the rule..... I would NOT go there. rgncjn's crew handled it the best (by rule) way they could.

[IREFU2]

Originally Posted by williebfree

This is an EXTREMELY liberal interpretation of the rule..... I would NOT go there. rgncjn's crew handled it the best (by rule) way they could.

Let me clarify, the "they" I was talking about is NFHS, not the crew. Yes, they, the crew, handled it the best way they could.....

[Adam]

Originally Posted by IREFU2

I think they should put this under 9-1-3b, "faking" a free throw. When you intentional throw the ball off the backboard while lined up for a free throw, it should be considered faking. Just MHO.....

I disagree. I'd really hate to have to decide whether the player was legitimately attempting to make the free throw. It's better to tell him he has to hit the rim; it's something concrete that we can enforce.

[Jimgolf]

Originally Posted by IREFU2

I think they should put this under 9-1-3b, "faking" a free throw. When you intentional throw the ball off the backboard while lined up for a free throw, it should be considered faking. Just MHO.....

Faking a free throw is not the same as missing it intentionally. This was a legal play and should continue to be legal as a counter to strategic fouling.

It is unfortunate that the player made a good play and the officials interfered with it, but that's basketball.

As many have said here before, wait to see the whole play before whistling.

[rgncjn]

Originally Posted by Jimgolf

As many have said here before, wait to see the whole play before whistling.

That is always included in my pregame conference. It looks like my partner fell asleep during this.

This is not a cheapshot at my partner, or me throwing him under the bus, we work together on a weekly basis and are great friends. We all have that dreaded off night.

[TussAgee11]

I think this is worse than a quick whistle - this isn't being aware of the situation. Both C and T here should be ready for this type of play by A1. I could understand and accept the quick whistle theory if this was in the middle of a game. But in an end of game situation, you have to be aware that the shooter is going to miss on purpose, probably by throwing the ball hard, and get ready for collisions around the basket.

It was both a lack of timing and a lack of thinking.

We've all made mistakes, myself included, so I'll get off my high horse.

[jdw3018]

Originally Posted by TussAgee11

I think this is worse than a quick whistle - this isn't being aware of the situation. Both C and T here should be ready for this type of play by A1. I could understand and accept the quick whistle theory if this was in the middle of a game. But in an end of game situation, you have to be aware that the shooter is going to miss on purpose, probably by throwing the ball hard, and get ready for collisions around the basket.

It was both a lack of timing and a lack of thinking.

We've all made mistakes, myself included, so I'll get off my high horse.

Seems to me that while it may have been lack of awareness, it was more likely hyper-awareness - the call was made because the official was looking for the player to try to miss, knowing he needed to watch for not hitting the rim, AND knowing with such little time on the clock he wanted to get the violation before the clock was started.

So, when the ball was thrown against the backboard and he thought it wouldn't hit rim, he blows the whistle immediately. Bad call, but I'm guessing it didn't have anything to do with not looking for it - it had to do with "over" looking for it...