My crew kicked it...
Boys Varsity - Two 5-0 teams who are expected to finish 1st and 2nd in the league. Team A (Home) makes a three-point shot with 6 seconds remaining to send the game into overtime at 62-62.
In overtime, Team A is fouled and will attempt two free throws. Team A is down by 2, 67-64, with 3.4 seconds remaining. The first attempt is good, 67-65. The second shot is what made things interesting. The shooter, who we will call A1, throws the ball off the backboard and our C (I am lead) immediately whistles the violation. HOWEVER, after the ball hit the backboard, it then bounced off the rim and directly to A3 who made a layup. All three of us saw the ball hit the backboard, and the C was upset that he made the "anticipation call" before the entire play ended. Here is what we came up with... AP Arrow for the resumption of play, which favored Team A. Team A missed the last shot and lost the game, 67-65. I was personally disappointed that the game ended the way it did. Who knows if Team A would have actually secured the rebound after the second shot. We'll be ready to go tomorrow. Was the AP Arrow, in fact, the correct procedure to resume play? Edit: to correct scoring information |
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I dont understand. What did he call? Basket inference or a throw in violation? Was the ball in the hands of the player when the whistle was blown? |
Sorry... had to edit that. The first successful free throw made the game 67-65 and not 67-66.
The kid threw it hard off the backboard hoping to secure a rebound for the team. Our partner whistled the violation for the ball not contacting the ring on the second free throw attempt (9-1-4). BUT, the ball did hit the ring, immediately after our partner whistled and signaled the violation. |
Ouch is right.
Don't kill yourself. We all make mistakes.
AP arrow is correct. Call is inadvertent whistle. AP arrow since neither team had control. You are lucky they had the arrow, at least they got their chance to tie. And just to make you feel a little better, odds are they probably have a better chance off the inbounds to run a decent set play as opposed to off the rim. 4 seconds to run a play and take the last shot from your front court is not a bad deal. Live and learn. |
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Now, this post I quoted. Your post was OK until you said this. You have no way of knowing this and the OP said the miss went to A3 and he made a layup. Now maybe A3 got the ball and layup because the other players froze. I don't know and you sure don't know unless you know the OP personally and have talked to him about it off line. Why would you assume this? |
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This is an EXTREMELY liberal interpretation of the rule..... I would NOT go there. rgncjn's crew handled it the best (by rule) way they could. |
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knowing what? and assuming what? That they are better off with possession of the ball as opposed to off the rim? just my humble opinion. Ask any coach what he would rather have. As for the layup by A3, yes I assumed there was a freeze. Sequence: backboard, whistle, rim, rebound, layup. That's a long time between whistle and layup. I assumed. A tip, maybe not, but a catch and shoot with the whistle gone already, most likely there was a freeze. Was there? |
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It is unfortunate that the player made a good play and the officials interfered with it, but that's basketball. As many have said here before, wait to see the whole play before whistling. |
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This is not a cheapshot at my partner, or me throwing him under the bus, we work together on a weekly basis and are great friends. We all have that dreaded off night. |
I think this is worse than a quick whistle - this isn't being aware of the situation. Both C and T here should be ready for this type of play by A1. I could understand and accept the quick whistle theory if this was in the middle of a game. But in an end of game situation, you have to be aware that the shooter is going to miss on purpose, probably by throwing the ball hard, and get ready for collisions around the basket.
It was both a lack of timing and a lack of thinking. We've all made mistakes, myself included, so I'll get off my high horse. |
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