Pitt-Duke Double Whistle

[kbilla]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

This is usually the decision when a player is pushed (in which case I think it has merit), not when he is slapped on the arm (when I don't buy it).

Agreed that is what I was thinking...if B1 pushes A1 into B2 who has LGP, you can't exactly call a PC foul on A1...but in this case I thought it was more of a slap from what they were saying which is a tough sell...wish I would have seen the play..

[mick]

Originally Posted by kbilla

Agreed that is what I was thinking...if B1 pushes A1 into B2 who has LGP, you can't exactly call a PC foul on A1...but in this case I thought it was more of a slap from what they were saying which is a tough sell...wish I would have seen the play..

Then there is the fact that there is no airborne shooter in Men's hoops, so when B1 was penalized, all contact after that was incidental.

[kbilla]

Originally Posted by mick

Then there is the fact that there is no airborne shooter in Men's hoops, so when B1 was penalized, all contact after that was incidental.

? There is an airborne shooter still, the foul by B1 doesn't cause the ball to become dead...it's just the administration of the penalties is different in NCAAM with the foul being a push vs. PC if A1 releases the ball before the contact...you should still assess the foul, it's just the administration of the penalty that is different NCAAM vs. NF...in my example if B2 hadn't obtained LGP, you could have a multiple foul situation with fouls on both B1 & B2...now THAT I have never seen called, but the ball certainly doesn't become dead on the foul by B1...

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by mick

Then there is the fact that there is no airborne shooter in Men's hoops, so when B1 was penalized, all contact after that was incidental.

The ball isn't dead on the whistle for B1's foul, Mick. Don't we penalize illegal contact normally until the ball becomes dead under both FED and NCAA rules?

[grunewar]

Incidentally, if you didn't get to see this game, it was one of the better College games I've seen all yr! Pitt fought back from a huge deficit and both team's players hit some unbelievably clutch shots in the last few minutes. Game see sawed back and forth. My boys and I were glued to the set and a screaming! March atmosphere in Dec? It was great!

[inigo montoya]

Originally Posted by grunewar

Incidentally, if you didn't get to see this game, it was one of the better College games I've seen all yr! Pitt fought back from a huge deficit and both team's players hit some unbelievably clutch shots in the last few minutes. Game see sawed back and forth. My boys and I were glued to the set and a screaming! March atmosphere in Dec? It was great!

Incidentally, any time Duke loses is "one of the better College games"

[mick]

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

The ball isn't dead on the whistle for B1's foul, Mick. Don't we penalize illegal contact normally until the ball becomes dead under both FED and NCAA rules?

True, true. But having not seen the play, I dunno where the ball was, whether it had a chance to go in, if the shot had ended, when B2 got hit, or how bad the contact was. I was just making postutilization possibilities of how the official were thinking.

[mkiogima]

Originally Posted by mick

True, true. But having not seen the play, I dunno where the ball was, whether it had a chance to go in, if the shot had ended, when B2 got hit, or how bad the contact was. I was just making postutilization possibilities of how the official were thinking.

You're not originally from the U.P. are you Mick?

[mick]

Originally Posted by mkiogima

You're not originally from the U.P. are you Mick?

Nope.
Born in Minnesota and raised in Lower Michigan.
How did you know?

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by mick

Then there is the fact that there is no airborne shooter in Men's hoops, so when B1 was penalized, all contact after that was incidental.

That's not even true. In fact, there is an airborne shooter rule in NCAA Mens. The rule is just different. He can't commit a PC foul. The rest of the rule reads the same though. He is still in the act of shooting until returning to the floor and if fouled during such time would be awarded FTs.

[mick]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

That's not even true. In fact, there is an airborne shooter rule in NCAA Mens. The rule is just different. He can't commit a PC foul. The rest of the rule reads the same though. He is still in the act of shooting until returning to the floor and if fouled during such time would be awarded FTs.

okay.