Team or player control?

[Grail]

Team Control or Player Control doesn't matter. The penalty is the same. We don't shoot on either one.

[IREFU2]

Originally Posted by Grail

Team Control or Player Control doesn't matter. The penalty is the same. We don't shoot on either one.

Cant be player control......he doesnt have control of the ball!!!!

[Adam]

Originally Posted by IREFU2

Cant be player control......he doesnt have control of the ball!!!!

That wasn't his point. His point was in the end, it really doesn't matter. The penalty is the same either way.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

That wasn't his point. His point was in the end, it really doesn't matter. The penalty is the same either way.

Agreed. I think that they should now eliminate the player control foul. It is fully redundant.

The TC definition would need to inlcude the airborne shooter clause (as is in the PC definition) but other than that there is no difference.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

Agreed. I think that they should now eliminate the player control foul. It is fully redundant.

Airborne A1 releases the ball on a try (ending team control) and then fouls B1.

It's a PC foul, even though there's no PC nor TC.

So, the can't just eliminate the PC foul. They could add to the TC foul, and then eliminate it.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

Airborne A1 releases the ball on a try (ending team control) and then fouls B1.

It's a PC foul, even though there's no PC nor TC.

So, the can't just eliminate the PC foul. They could add to the TC foul, and then eliminate it.

Uh, bob, did you skip my next sentence? It said exactly that.

[Scrapper1]

How about eliminating both the PC and TC fouls. Instead use the punch to indicate an "offensive foul" when a common foul is committed:

• by a player who is holding or dribbling a live ball inbounds;
• by a teammate of a player who is holding or dribbling a live ball inbounds;
• by an airborne player who has tapped or released the ball for a try for goal;
• by a member of the throw-in team between the time the ball is at the disposal of the inbounder and the time the throw-in pass is controlled (held or dribbled) inbounds.

This essentially makes the rule the same as the NBA and NCAA rules, but doesn't make any changes to the definition of team control.