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Old Mon Dec 17, 2007, 07:28am
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When I think about facial hair, I was excluding mustaches. I wear a very thin one, but now that I think about it, it seems like everyone in my college association shaves theirs during the season. My college website is down right now so I can't look at all of the offcials pictures, which is required on our website. I know had a couple of strands of hair on my chin and was told that I needed to shave before my games. I use to have to shave once every other week but now I make sure I shave the night before every game.
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Old Mon Dec 17, 2007, 08:05am
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The first association I reffed in had more rules and regs. than I care to remember. One of them was no facial hair except for a well groomed mustache.

My current association has only a rule that officials will look "professional."
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Old Mon Dec 17, 2007, 08:24am
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If so, this is also an unwritten rule concerning officers in the Military. .
Concur! Like the military and some jobs for that matter - facial hair is just frowned upon for whatever reason and it "goes without saying". But, we even talked about this at one of our Ref Association Mtgs. As I look around my Association, my work place and the corporate structure, it just doesn't happen. While I don't necessarily agree, I learned long ago, when it Rome.....

Besides, I look horrible/10 yrs older with a mustache and beard! blah!
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Old Mon Dec 17, 2007, 09:01am
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No, but we have regulations concerning anything that fugly. We don't use officials that make small children cry and the townspeople break out the torches and pitchforks.
ROFL!!
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Old Mon Dec 17, 2007, 09:47am
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Besides, I look horrible/10 yrs older with a mustache and beard! blah!
Heh, my problem is that I look 17 years old withOUT my goatee. Maybe when I hit my 40's I'll be able to shave it and look like I'm in my 20's again..
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Old Mon Dec 17, 2007, 10:46am
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If my facial hair's like this, can I advance?

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Old Mon Dec 17, 2007, 11:37am
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Around here, mustaches are OK, just no beards or goatees if you want to call varsity level.

Is this anybody on this forum?



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Old Mon Dec 17, 2007, 11:47am
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In Virginia and Maryland...

...where I worked previously--facial hair on white male officials was frowned upon. Now in NH and MA where I currently officiate, there are a lot of white guys with facial hair.
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Old Mon Dec 17, 2007, 11:48am
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we have several European Americans that have side burns. We have a mexican american with a pencil mustache, and a antartic american with a full beard.
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Old Mon Dec 17, 2007, 11:52am
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Seeing Padgett's picture (if that is really him) brought this question to my mind. Do your official's associations have regulations concerning facial hair (women excluded )?
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When more women start officiating past menopause, they might include them as well.
How old are you, Rita? Still got a few years left? Without getting too explicit, I"ll just say about myself, that I'll let you know in a few months or so how that all works out.
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Old Mon Dec 17, 2007, 12:00pm
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If my facial hair's like this, can I advance?

No, but if it's like this, your odds are a helluva lot better...

I'm not sure whether the headband is illegal or not though.....
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Old Mon Dec 17, 2007, 12:39pm
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Good point, JR. And you're right to worry about the headband.

I wonder about my suspenders, though?
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No, but we have regulations concerning anything that fugly. We don't use officials that make small children cry and the townspeople break out the torches and pitchforks.
HEY - I was framed, I tell ya.
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Old Mon Dec 17, 2007, 01:39pm
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Why are you not clean shaven for softball as you are for basketball?
For softball, I umpire with many guys with facial hair, and no one has ever said anything about it. For basketball, I can't think of many people with facial hair.

And JRut was right earlier. There are several African-American guys in our association, many of whom call varsity games, who have facial hair. This does just seem to be a hang-up of Caucasian persons.
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Old Mon Dec 17, 2007, 02:14pm
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I have a goatee and I wear glasses..does not seem to bother anyone..maybe I am just lucky and the people in NH overlook those things- nice to live in the
"Live Free or Die" State
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