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Old Mon Dec 10, 2007, 04:08pm
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Remind the table to tell the official when a player has their 4th foul. This means that a player with 3 fouls needs to be of importance to the table.
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Why do you want to know when a player has 4 fouls?
I'm wondering about this too. I typically post here only when I have a question about keeping the book or when I've made a mistake keeping the book that I want to ask about. However, I've never notified the officials when a player had 4 fouls (though I try to keep the coaches informed). Is notifying the officials about a 4th foul something else I should be doing? Thanks.
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Old Mon Dec 10, 2007, 04:14pm
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I'm wondering about this too. I typically post here only when I have a question about keeping the book or when I've made a mistake keeping the book that I want to ask about. However, I've never notified the officials when a player had 4 fouls (though I try to keep the coaches informed). Is notifying the officials about a 4th foul something else I should be doing? Thanks.
No. i don't care, and it's as likely to cause momentary confusion as anything.
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Old Mon Dec 10, 2007, 04:24pm
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Is notifying the officials about a 4th foul something else I should be doing?
No. Just tell 'em on the fifth.
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Old Thu Dec 06, 2007, 04:30pm
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Tie game at 51. A1 shooting a 1 and 1 with 4.1 left. B1 that fouled has 5 and scorers table is trying to get the officials attention (without the horn), the officials don't hear it and the free throw takes place. A1 misses but scorers table doesn't start the clock (as they are still trying to get the officials attention for the fifth foul). The ball is tipped to A2 who pump fakes and goes back up and scores. Then Officials realize there is a problem.

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Put 2.1 on the scoreboard B throw -in anywhere along endline.
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Old Thu Dec 06, 2007, 04:42pm
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Put 2.1 on the scoreboard B throw -in anywhere along endline.
How in the world do you put 2.1 on the scoreboard?
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Old Thu Dec 06, 2007, 05:28pm
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How in the world do you put 2.1 on the scoreboard?
Huh?

Most clocks that display 1/10s of seconds can be set to 1/10s of seconds.

If not, set it to 3.0 and run it down (a real quick on-off will usually be 1/10 of a second -- and I don't need any comments from Padgett on that statement)
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Old Thu Dec 06, 2007, 05:36pm
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Huh?

Most clocks that display 1/10s of seconds can be set to 1/10s of seconds.

If not, set it to 3.0 and run it down (a real quick on-off will usually be 1/10 of a second -- and I don't need any comments from Padgett on that statement)
He meant, "Why in the world do you put 2.1 seconds on the scoreboard?" There was initially 4.1 seconds. Why take 2 seconds off?
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Old Thu Dec 06, 2007, 05:39pm
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He meant, "Why in the world do you put 2.1 seconds on the scoreboard?" There was initially 4.1 seconds. Why take 2 seconds off?
"Why" and "How" are synonyms?

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Old Fri Dec 07, 2007, 08:12am
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If you had a count on as a referee, that is definite knowledge of how much time to take off.

If you ever have a count on and the clock does not match your count, you cannot adjust the clock to the violation at hand. For example, if the ball is taken out of bounds on a full court press with 15 seconds remaining and you whistled a 10 second backcourt violation with 2 seconds now remaining on the clock, you cannot reset the clock to 5 seconds to match the stopped clock with the 10 second violation.

Your count is the definite knowledge you have to go by so in the scenario posted, you could take off 2 seconds from the closely guarded count. It was a merited free throw so it stands and there was no erroneous information from the official so you now replace the disqualified player with B running the baseline for a throw-in.
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Old Thu Dec 06, 2007, 05:35pm
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Old Mon Dec 10, 2007, 10:43am
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What if???

He had missed the followup??? Would you reshoot the FT??? Go to ot??
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Old Mon Dec 10, 2007, 10:48am
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He had missed the followup??? Would you reshoot the FT??? Go to ot??
Depends on where the ball was when the officials realized the problem and stopped the game. If there was no team control, go to the arrow. If there was team control, that team would get the ball. It's a POI question.

Either way, whether the try is successful has no bearing on the time situation, and you would not in any case reshoot the FT.
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Old Mon Dec 10, 2007, 12:20pm
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Well, based off the info in the OP- the basket counts, T official notifies Coach B of the 5th personal, the player of the 5th personal, and tells the scorekeeper to start the 20 second replacement clock. and resume play as normal

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