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Old Mon Dec 03, 2007, 11:24am
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Player Out of Bounds

We all know (hopefully) that a player going out of bounds on his own is a violation. Of course, this does not include trying to keep a ball in play and momentum carrying him/her OOB.

I've seen situations in the NBA happen a lot when a player would go around a screen under the basket by running on the OOB area by the endline. I know this rule does not apply in the NBA. But if this happens in HS or college, I assume it's a violation, right?

In your experience, have you ever seen this called? I've been officiating for about 5 yrs now and not once have I seen a player going OOB violation called.
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Old Mon Dec 03, 2007, 11:27am
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I've seen situations in the NBA happen a lot when a player would go around a screen under the basket by running on the OOB area by the endline. I know this rule does not apply in the NBA. But if this happens in HS or college, I assume it's a violation, right?
It is a violation. 9-3-3
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Old Mon Dec 03, 2007, 11:57am
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But if this happens in HS or college, I assume it's a violation, right?
In HS, it's an immediate violation. In NCAA, it's a violation if the player is the first (they mean "next") person to touch the ball after returning inbounds.

I've called it in both HS and NCAA ball -- a couple of times the first year it was in place, maybe once the following year. I rarely see it anymore.
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Old Mon Dec 03, 2007, 12:25pm
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It is a violation. 9-3-3
What if the player is forced out of bounds??.. still a violation??
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Old Mon Dec 03, 2007, 12:27pm
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What if the player is forced out of bounds??.. still a violation??
It depends on how he/she is "forced" OOB. If contact forces a player OOB, it should be a foul. If the player is forced to run OOB to get around a well-placed screen, it is a violation.

I don't see any way a player is "forced" OOB where you have no call.
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Old Mon Dec 03, 2007, 12:28pm
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What if the player is forced out of bounds??.. still a violation??
Not enough info - define "forced"....
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Old Mon Dec 03, 2007, 03:29pm
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What if the player is forced out of bounds??.. still a violation??
There's no such thing as a "force out" (although I think it used to be part of the rules in the NBA).

If the defense illegally forces the offense oob, they have placed the offense at a disasdvantage -- call the foul.

If the defense legally forces the offense oob, they have played good defense. Call the violation. (This latter part is the OP)
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Old Mon Dec 03, 2007, 06:46pm
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There's no such thing as a "force out" (although I think it used to be part of the rules in the NBA).

If the defense illegally forces the offense oob, they have placed the offense at a disasdvantage -- call the foul.

If the defense legally forces the offense oob, they have played good defense. Call the violation. (This latter part is the OP)
Gee Bob - that's where I was headed, but you took all the fun out of it
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Old Mon Dec 03, 2007, 08:43pm
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In HS, it's an immediate violation.
Not actually. If it is a last minute tactic specifically designed to stop the clock near the end of a period or take away a clear advantageous position by the offense should be temporarily ignored.
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