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actuary77 Mon Dec 03, 2007 11:24am

Player Out of Bounds
 
We all know (hopefully) that a player going out of bounds on his own is a violation. Of course, this does not include trying to keep a ball in play and momentum carrying him/her OOB.

I've seen situations in the NBA happen a lot when a player would go around a screen under the basket by running on the OOB area by the endline. I know this rule does not apply in the NBA. But if this happens in HS or college, I assume it's a violation, right?

In your experience, have you ever seen this called? I've been officiating for about 5 yrs now and not once have I seen a player going OOB violation called.

jdw3018 Mon Dec 03, 2007 11:27am

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Originally Posted by actuary77
I've seen situations in the NBA happen a lot when a player would go around a screen under the basket by running on the OOB area by the endline. I know this rule does not apply in the NBA. But if this happens in HS or college, I assume it's a violation, right?

It is a violation. 9-3-3

bob jenkins Mon Dec 03, 2007 11:57am

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Originally Posted by actuary77
But if this happens in HS or college, I assume it's a violation, right?

In HS, it's an immediate violation. In NCAA, it's a violation if the player is the first (they mean "next") person to touch the ball after returning inbounds.

I've called it in both HS and NCAA ball -- a couple of times the first year it was in place, maybe once the following year. I rarely see it anymore.

Bearfanmike20 Mon Dec 03, 2007 12:25pm

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Originally Posted by jdw3018
It is a violation. 9-3-3

What if the player is forced out of bounds??.. still a violation??

jdw3018 Mon Dec 03, 2007 12:27pm

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Originally Posted by Bearfanmike20
What if the player is forced out of bounds??.. still a violation??

It depends on how he/she is "forced" OOB. If contact forces a player OOB, it should be a foul. If the player is forced to run OOB to get around a well-placed screen, it is a violation.

I don't see any way a player is "forced" OOB where you have no call.

TimTaylor Mon Dec 03, 2007 12:28pm

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Originally Posted by Bearfanmike20
What if the player is forced out of bounds??.. still a violation??

Not enough info - define "forced"....

bob jenkins Mon Dec 03, 2007 03:29pm

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Originally Posted by Bearfanmike20
What if the player is forced out of bounds??.. still a violation??

There's no such thing as a "force out" (although I think it used to be part of the rules in the NBA).

If the defense illegally forces the offense oob, they have placed the offense at a disasdvantage -- call the foul.

If the defense legally forces the offense oob, they have played good defense. Call the violation. (This latter part is the OP)

TimTaylor Mon Dec 03, 2007 06:46pm

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Originally Posted by bob jenkins
There's no such thing as a "force out" (although I think it used to be part of the rules in the NBA).

If the defense illegally forces the offense oob, they have placed the offense at a disasdvantage -- call the foul.

If the defense legally forces the offense oob, they have played good defense. Call the violation. (This latter part is the OP)

Gee Bob - that's where I was headed, but you took all the fun out of it:D :D

Indianaref Mon Dec 03, 2007 08:43pm

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Originally Posted by bob jenkins
In HS, it's an immediate violation.

Not actually. If it is a last minute tactic specifically designed to stop the clock near the end of a period or take away a clear advantageous position by the offense should be temporarily ignored.


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