Charge/Block contact

[tmp44]

Had the contact been made prior to the first foot hitting the ground, we have a block, correct?

[jdw3018]

Originally Posted by tmp44

Had the contact been made prior to the first foot hitting the ground, we have a block, correct?

If, as in the OP the defender didn't obtain that position until after A2 left the ground, then yes it would be a block in your scenario.

[Junker]

Great description in the OP by the way. These are hard plays to describe in print. Nicely done.

[Coltdoggs]

So I am reading that when control of the ball established here is the key for the criteria to make this a PC and not a block...

Had the offensive player not gained control of the balland the defender slid under him while in the air, we have a block.

[jdw3018]

Originally Posted by Coltdoggs

So I am reading that when control of the ball established here is the key for the criteria to make this a PC and not a block...

Had the offensive player not gained control of the balland the defender slid under him while in the air, we have a block.

Control of the ball AND the fact that A2 had returned to the ground prior to contact.

[Coltdoggs]

Originally Posted by jdw3018

Control of the ball AND the fact that A2 had returned to the ground prior to contact.

I just read my post and obviously to have PC you have to have the ball! STUPID REF!

So...I then make this commentary...b/c I think I am seeing this play correctly and adding to it for those playing at home...

If B2 obtains the space on the floor while A2 is in the air (regardless of ball control)..B2 has to give room to A2 to come down, correct....othewise he is basically undercutting him..causing this to be a block.

If A2 was in the air and misses the entry pass and the ball sails over his head, B2 obtained his spot, A2 lands with one foot then crashes into B2, we have a push on A2. UNLESS the entry pass was caught by A5 before the crash occured, then we have a team control foul?

[jdw3018]

Originally Posted by Coltdoggs

If B2 obtains the space on the floor while A2 is in the air (regardless of ball control)..B2 has to give room to A2 to come down, correct....othewise he is basically undercutting him..causing this to be a block.

Correct, B2 has to give A2 the opportunity to come down. The difference in the OP is whether A2 has control - if he does, B2 doesn't have to give any more space than enough to come down. If A2 doesn't have PC, then B2 must also give enough time and distance for A2 to come to a stop, which could be up to 2 steps.

If A2 was in the air and misses the entry pass and the ball sails over his head, B2 obtained his spot, A2 lands with one foot then crashes into B2, we have a push on A2. UNLESS the entry pass was caught by A5 before the crash occured, then we have a team control foul?[/

We don't know if we have a push on A2. It depends on your judgement whether A2 had time and distance to come under control before contacting B2.

If you determine the foul is on A2 for pushing, it is a team control foul in either scenario, as team control continues during a pass.