Uniform problem in Tennessee

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by Ignats75

Wrong....first of all, that was specifically mentioned in our state rules meeting by the official OHSAA rules interpreter.
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Clearly the uniform violation must be Teed at the start of the game for the starters and on initial entry into the game for each sub. Otherwise, no T. The rules state this and our rules interpreter clarified the same thing at our state rules meeting.

Ignats,
Unfortunately, you were given poor information from your rules interpreter. I've proven that by posting the Case Book ruling. We'll have to get MTD to contact this guy and straighten him out.

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by Ignats75

But that is never how the the NFHS addresses these types of T's. They must be caught the first time only.

You are not listening. People have told you many times now that what you think is simply not true, yet you keep insisting that it is.

We can't change your mind. You are going to have to do that or elect to continue to misapply the rules.

BTW there is an NFHS interp this very year about a team taking an excess time-out but it isn't recognized or penalized right away that it is more than the alloted number. The ruling is to penalize it when discovered even if that is much later in the game. It is simply not the case that these things must be caught immediately in order to assess a T. Now please reconsider your stance.

Here is the current NFHS interp:
SITUATION 11: A1 requests and is granted an excessive time-out. The excessive time-out is discovered (a) immediately; (b) when A1 has the ball at his/her disposal for a throw-in following the time-out; (c) during a dead ball after three minutes have elapsed off the game clock. RULING: In (a), (b) and (c), assess a team technical foul to Team A for the excessive time-out. Team B is awarded two free throws and the ball for a division line throw-in. The penalty for an excessive time-out is assessed when discovered. (10-1-7 Penalty)

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by Ignats75

Unfortunately, the officials still misapplied the rule since the T needs to be enforced the first time the player with the illegal uniform enters the floor. If the T is not enforced at that time, it cannot be retroactively enforced.

Incorrect. It's a T when a player enters or re-enters the game. If they are in the game already, no T is called. However, if they are subbed out, and return, the T is called (but only 1 T per player per game).

[Mark Padgett]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

Ignats,
We'll have to get MTD to contact this guy and straighten him out.

Forget MTD. Call my cousin Tony.

[Nevadaref]

MTD lives in Ohio. I don't think that Tony does.

[dblref]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

MTD lives in Ohio. I don't think that Tony does.

Ohio, New Jersey. What's the difference?

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by dblref

Ohio, New Jersey. What's the difference?

Oh my........

You've never been to Hackensack or Bayonne, have you?

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

Oh my........

You've never been to Hackensack or Bayonne, have you?

Never been to Columbus, have you?

[rainmaker]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

However, if they are subbed out, and return, the T is called (but only 1 T per player per gam).

So, two per player?!? Seems a little harsh....

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

Never been to Columbus, have you?

I spent a month there one weekend.

[Mark Padgett]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

Never been to Columbus, have you?

I've been to Columbus once. I have cousins who live there. I remember asking them why they were all wearing Oregon State T-shirts.

[truerookie]

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

I spent a month there one weekend.

How can a weekend turn into a month Jurassic Ref?

[rainmaker]

Originally Posted by truerookie

How can a weekend turn into a month Jurassic Ref?

somebody give him the link to the sense-of-humor drop in.

[Ignats75]

OK, I'm man enough to admit when I am wrong. I have another book from the NFHS and that one is very clear. You are correct, they can assess the T when the player reenters the game if they miss it the first time.

[Scrapper1]

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

I spent a month there one weekend.

Best thing about that place, it's the perfect place to move if you ever find out that you only have a month to live. It'll only be a month, but it'll feel like a freakin' eternity!