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Old Fri Nov 23, 2007, 11:44pm
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Uniform problem in Tennessee

http://www.tennessean.com/apps/pbcs....80/1039/SPORTS

Looks like the officials were not sure of the rule, so the technicals were not accessed until halftime. That could not have been a fun scene.
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Old Sat Nov 24, 2007, 01:19am
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Wow, documented enforcement of the NFHS uniform rule!

Unfortunately, this article also shows how lack of proper rules knowledge can really make officials look poor.
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Old Sat Nov 24, 2007, 05:23am
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BTW any of the five 2nd half starters who were in the game at the end of the 2nd quarter should not have been penalized upon returning to the court for the start of the 3rd quarter.
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Old Sat Nov 24, 2007, 09:02am
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http://www.tennessean.com/apps/pbcs....80/1039/SPORTS

Looks like the officials were not sure of the rule, so the technicals were not accessed until halftime. That could not have been a fun scene.
Not having numbers on the front of the jerseys was an easy one.......all I can say is wow.....
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Old Sat Nov 24, 2007, 12:23pm
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Fortunately it should only take a few such stories to raise the awareness level surrounding legal/illegal jerseys with coaches all around the country. But for those teams whose coaches are dumb enough to ignore the rules and they get tagged for it, that's gotta hurt. I feel bad for the kids. But it's gotta be done.
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Old Sat Nov 24, 2007, 01:07pm
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As I read the rule, a T is assessed once per game for each uniform.
[WIAA -Wisconsin- wants one per team.]
I agree with the coach it's unfair to come back later with more. If you don't know the rule, eat it and play.
No numbers on the front has been a violation for a long time(?). If these aren't new unis, why were they allowed to play with them before?
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Old Sat Nov 24, 2007, 03:23pm
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As I read the rule, a T is assessed once per game for each uniform.
[WIAA -Wisconsin- wants one per team.]
I agree with the coach it's unfair to come back later with more. If you don't know the rule, eat it and play.
No numbers on the front has been a violation for a long time(?). If these aren't new unis, why were they allowed to play with them before?
By rule every illegal jersey is a technical foul. 2 shots for every starter and incoming substitute.
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Old Sat Nov 24, 2007, 03:40pm
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I need to pull the book out, but is there a restriction on when this should be enforced? If no one notices until midway through the 1st quarter, does it get ignored at that point?
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Old Sat Nov 24, 2007, 04:00pm
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I need to pull the book out, but is there a restriction on when this should be enforced? If no one notices until midway through the 1st quarter, does it get ignored at that point?
Once you notice the violation, it becomes a technical foul.
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Once you notice the violation, it becomes a technical foul.
Just to be snippy, it's never a violation. You could call it an infraction.
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Old Sat Nov 24, 2007, 04:15pm
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Unfortunately, the officials still misapplied the rule since the T needs to be enforced the first time the player with the illegal uniform enters the floor. If the T is not enforced at that time, it cannot be retroactively enforced.
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Yes it can and must be enforced if it is caught later on in the game.
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Old Sat Nov 24, 2007, 04:57pm
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Who in their right mind would order uniforms without numbers on the front? {I think I answered my own question.}
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Just to be snippy, it's never a violation. You could call it an infraction.

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