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Old Mon Oct 22, 2007, 04:01pm
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I don't like it because of its singular flaw.
Preceding a throw-in at the division line, the administering official cannot see the table through the the free official's backside.
Geeze, mick - how big is your partner's backside?
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Old Mon Oct 22, 2007, 04:16pm
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I think the purpose of this mechanic is communication - at some point a coach or asst. is going to stick their head out of the huddle and ask where the ball is going to be put in play, and having an official stand at the spot of the throw-in communicates that information easier. Also, late in the game when the officials are getting together to discuss their end-of-game strategy, leaving the ball at the spot of the throw-in also communicates that info to the teams.

In NCAA-W, the mechanic for the last couple of years was to put the ball down on the floor at the spot of the throw-in, even if the official was standing next to it. I thought the same thing Jeff did - someone would trip over it, steal it, or kick it away, but that never happened to me, or to anyone else I know. The reason given for changing the mechanic back this year to the official holding the ball at the spot was because the rules committee didn't like the "unprofessional" way the officials were picking up the ball after the TO. Some officials would pound on it and bounce it up, others would put their foot under it and kick it up; these methods are not as "professional" looking as simply bending over and picking it up.
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Old Mon Oct 22, 2007, 04:41pm
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In NCAA-W, the mechanic for the last couple of years was to put the ball down on the floor at the spot of the throw-in, even if the official was standing next to it. I thought the same thing Jeff did - someone would trip over it, steal it, or kick it away, but that never happened to me, or to anyone else I know.
What works at the NCAA level does not always work very well at the HS level. Cheerleaders at the HS level are not as smart. And I have seen officials put the ball on the floor and I have seen cheerleaders almost trip over the ball. I almost ran into a cheerleader that was flipping on the court during a 30 second timeout (because cheerleaders are stupid).

The bottom line is I might use the mechanic on a case by case basis. But I think the ball on the floor only takes one time for there to be a really problem.

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Maybe mick's right - we just need to send them to another room?...
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Old Mon Oct 22, 2007, 05:05pm
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Maybe mick's right - we just need to send them to another room?...
If there were no cheerleaders, I probably would be OK with this mechanic.

The last time I checked, NCAA-W Basketball does not have cheerleaders.

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Old Mon Oct 22, 2007, 07:11pm
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The last time I checked, NCAA-W Basketball does not have cheerleaders.
You haven't checked in a while, have you? I've been to several women's games that include cheerleaders. But college cheerleading squads are (usually) better trained and more skilled.
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Old Mon Oct 22, 2007, 08:21pm
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You haven't checked in a while, have you? I've been to several women's games that include cheerleaders. But college cheerleading squads are (usually) better trained and more skilled.
They better be, someone has to watch something interesting during the games.

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Old Mon Oct 22, 2007, 04:24pm
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Geeze, mick - how big is your partner's backside?
Ha! just sayin'.... Just sayin'....
...Especially when it's a full timeout and partner is on circle, away from the table, you'll feel like yer 'shut out', if you ever work two-whistle.
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Old Mon Oct 22, 2007, 04:30pm
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Ha! just sayin'.... Just sayin'....
...Especially when it's a full timeout and partner is on circle, away from the table, you'll feel like yer 'shut out', if you ever work two-whistle.
That's why in those cases I just take a step or two to the side. (Usually depending on which side the cheerleaders are on...is that mentioned in the mechanics manual?)
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Old Mon Oct 22, 2007, 04:37pm
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That's why in those cases I just take a step or two to the side. (Usually depending on which side the cheerleaders are on...is that mentioned in the mechanics manual?)
Go ahead. Enjoy the cheerleaders.
I wish they were somewhere else, ...in another room perhaps.
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Old Mon Oct 22, 2007, 04:40pm
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Go ahead. Enjoy the cheerleaders.
I wish they were somewhere else, ...in another room perhaps.
Ha, yourself! You're assuming I automatically want to be closer. I just want the option some nights.
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Old Mon Oct 22, 2007, 05:10pm
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Ha! just sayin'.... Just sayin'....
...Especially when it's a full timeout and partner is on circle, away from the table, you'll feel like yer 'shut out', if you ever work two-whistle.
But if my partner is female and nicely constructed, this could be a bonus. I'm just sayin'
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Geeze, mick - how big is your partner's backside?
I think this is her. And no - that is NOT Juulie!



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