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Old Fri Oct 19, 2007, 06:31pm
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You tell me what the relationship is---"lack of action" to "not closely guarded".
Jeez, how hard is this? The relationship is what Mountaineer said to what Mountaineer meant. That's all.

Everybody who has read this thread knows that. You're not really dumb; you're just trying to be.
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Old Fri Oct 19, 2007, 07:50pm
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Jeez, how hard is this? The relationship is what Mountaineer said to what Mountaineer meant. That's all.
But bearfanmike answered Jeff Rutledge's question, such question very specifically and explicitly having to do with what Mountaineer said(lack of action)--not what Mountaineer meant(not closely guarded).

What Mountaineer said(lack of action) and what Mountaineer meant(not closely guarded) are 2 completely different and unrelated aspects of the rules. There is NO mechanic currently in use for "lack of action"; there is a mechanic in use for "not closely guarded" situations.

How hard is that?
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Old Fri Oct 19, 2007, 08:02pm
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Veterans, let's not forget that many of our Forum members may not even know what "Lack of Action really is, or was.
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Old Fri Oct 19, 2007, 08:25pm
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Veterans, let's not forget that many of our Forum members may not even know what "Lack of Action really is, or was.
As I get older, lack of action becomes more of a reality.

Oh, wait ... you were talking about basketball. Never mind.
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Old Fri Oct 19, 2007, 08:29pm
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How I wish I could rename the thread . . . if you are reading this for the first time - I had a brain fart when I wrote this - for the life of me, I could not think of the phrase "closely guarded". I don't know why - it just happened.

When reading the OP - please substitute the phrase closely guarded for lack of action. I did edit the OP - left it as originally posted, but added to hopefully serve as a beacon to any new people that stumble upon this thread in the future to hopefully clarify what I meant instead of what I said. I'm just glad OS hasn't found it yet!
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Old Sat Oct 20, 2007, 07:42pm
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Veterans, let's not forget that many of our Forum members may not even know what "Lack of Action really is, or was.
Insert first-wife joke here.
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Old Sat Oct 20, 2007, 08:10pm
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closely guarded signal

Here in new york, the signal was just readopted for this year.

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Old Sun Oct 21, 2007, 09:47pm
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There was the verbal admonsihment "Play!" along with pointing the offense to attempt to advance the ball toward the basket if they were trailing or to the defense to come out and apply pressure if they were trailing in my first incarnation as an official back in the 1970s. That was the 'lack of action' mechanic as I remember it.

Of course, we used to throw up about 75 jump balls in those days, too.
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Old Mon Oct 22, 2007, 08:48pm
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From 26 Year Gap: "There was the verbal admonsihment "Play!" along with pointing the offense to attempt to advance the ball toward the basket if they were trailing or to the defense to come out and apply pressure if they were trailing in my first incarnation as an official back in the 1970s. That was the 'lack of action' mechanic as I remember it."

I believe that the offensive team, if trailing, had to advance the ball past the 28 foot hashmark, which back then was also used for the closely guarded situations, the cosely guarded offensive player got a new dribbling five seconds if they drove past the hash mark. Most gyms don't even have those hash marks marked anymore. When I was coaching, I taught my players that if they were filling the outer lanes on the fast break, that they must touch the hash marks with their feet. I couldn't use that teaching tool today.
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Old Mon Oct 22, 2007, 08:56pm
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From 26 Year Gap: "There was the verbal admonsihment "Play!" along with pointing the offense to attempt to advance the ball toward the basket if they were trailing or to the defense to come out and apply pressure if they were trailing in my first incarnation as an official back in the 1970s. That was the 'lack of action' mechanic as I remember it."

I believe that the offensive team, if trailing, had to advance the ball past the 28 foot hashmark, which back then was also used for the closely guarded situations, the cosely guarded offensive player got a new dribbling five seconds if they drove past the hash mark. Most gyms don't even have those hash marks marked anymore. When I was coaching, I taught my players that if they were filling the outer lanes on the fast break, that they must touch the hash marks with their feet. I couldn't use that teaching tool today.
That disappeared long before. Probably before the players no longer needed to raise their hand if they fouled someone. [1974-75 season].
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Old Tue Oct 23, 2007, 08:49am
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Old Tue Oct 23, 2007, 08:51am
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I didn't mean to start somthing.. I was just trying to be helpful
Don't sweat it, Bearfan. Without OS around, we've been itching for a fight. It'll calm down when the season gets into full swing.
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Old Tue Oct 23, 2007, 09:56am
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That disappeared long before. Probably before the players no longer needed to raise their hand if they fouled someone. [1974-75 season].
As one who actually officiated with the Lack of Action rule (in Pennsylvania), we *did* use the 28-foot hashmark.

This was up until about 1990, I believe.
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Old Tue Oct 23, 2007, 12:20pm
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As I get older, lack of action becomes more of a reality.

Oh, wait ... you were talking about basketball. Never mind.
Bob, there's prescriptions for that, they play them all the time during games on TV.
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Old Tue Oct 23, 2007, 12:37pm
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Bob, there's prescriptions for that, they play them all the time during games on TV.
You must be talking about Viagra, etc.

BTW - what do you get when you cross Viagra with Rogaine?

You get hair like Don King.

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