Question for the baseball guys

[Mark Padgett]

Originally Posted by Old School

Read the disclamier...Views expressed here or the opinion of the author.

I see you finally learned how to spell "author", but you can't correctly spell "disclaimer", plus - your signature of "Views expressed here or the opinion of the author" makes no sense grammatically.

[Old School]

Originally Posted by Scrapper1

I believe there's also a rule that once a pitcher is announced, he must pitch to one batter. Otherwise, you could bring in a reliever, the opponent could bring in a pinch hitter, then you could switch pitchers, the opponent could bring another pinch hitter. . .

Am I right about that?

You got it reversed. One a batter is announced and the at-bat starts, he must bat, cannot be replaced in the at-bat unless injuried. But you can switch the pitcher as many times as you want, even in the middle of the count. However, in the pro's, once you replace the pitcher, he is out of the game permanently, unless you stick him into the field, but I don't believe he can come back and pitch again once replaced. In softball, once the pitcher returns to a position in the field, he can then come back and pitch again and you can do this as many times as you want.

I know this is the same for MLB and softball slow pitch. The manager only gets one trip to the mound an not replace the pitcher in the same inning. Two trips to the mound in any one inning by the manager or pitching coach, pitcher must be replaced.

[Old School]

Originally Posted by Mark Padgett

I see you finally learned how to spell "author", but you can't correctly spell "disclaimer", plus - your signature of "Views expressed here or the opinion of the author" makes no sense grammatically.

If it makes no sense to you, perhaps you need to go back and take a refresher grammar class or understanding English because the statement could not be any clearer, minus the typo's of course. Damn keyboard....

[Mark Padgett]

Originally Posted by Old School

If it makes no sense to you, perhaps you need to go back and take a refresher grammar class or understanding English because the statement could not be any clearer, minus the typo's of course. Damn keyboard....Views expressed here or the opinion of the author

Look Old Drool, I'll match my spelling and grammar skills against yours any day of the week. Not only does your signature, shown above in red, not make any sense grammatically ("or" should be "are"), but "typos" (plural) SHOULDN'T HAVE AN APOSTROPHE!!!

[Rich]

Originally Posted by Old School

You got it reversed. One a batter is announced and the at-bat starts, he must bat, cannot be replaced in the at-bat unless injuried. But you can switch the pitcher as many times as you want, even in the middle of the count. However, in the pro's, once you replace the pitcher, he is out of the game permanently, unless you stick him into the field, but I don't believe he can come back and pitch again once replaced. In softball, once the pitcher returns to a position in the field, he can then come back and pitch again and you can do this as many times as you want.

I know this is the same for MLB and softball slow pitch. The manager only gets one trip to the mound an not replace the pitcher in the same inning. Two trips to the mound in any one inning by the manager or pitching coach, pitcher must be replaced.

This is stunning it's so wrong. In every possible way.

A pitcher can return to the mound once per inning if he stays in the game by playing another position. If in the AL, this kills the DH, BTW.

A manager cannot make two trips to the same batter in MLB. If he does after being warned, the manager is ejected and the pitcher must finish the at bat and then HE'S ejected.

You can pinch hit as often as you like. It's not unusual for a pinch hitter to be announced, followed by a pitching change, followed by a pinch hitter for the guy who hasn't even come up to the plate. But that's where it stops, as a pitcher must pitch until he completes an at bat or the side is retired.

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by Old School

Interesting...makes sense. Can't bunt in softball, issue never came up for me. I'm fairly certain that after you had 2 strikes, you couldn't switch, but you where allowed to switched once.

Seriously, he's GOTTA be putting us on.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by just another ref

Seriously, he's GOTTA be putting us on.

Well, you can't in that abomination called "slow-pitch."

[Back In The Saddle]

Originally Posted by Rich Fronheiser

Well, you can't in that abomination called "slow-pitch."

Hmmm, turning the 'b' over into a 'p'...is that a regional spelling? Or was it just a typo? Either way, it's the game that drove me out of umpiring altogether.

[Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.]

Originally Posted by Old School

Actually he can change sides while the pitch is being delivered, accept he will be automatically out for stepping across the plate. There is a rule about the batter switching but it's more to not make a mockery of the game. I think that's right, you can only do it once, but I know you also can't do it after 2 strikes either.

Far as I know there is no restriction on the pitcher, but you have to remember, common sense. If the pitcher switches to the other arm, then he/she won't be able to play defense very well because the glove on the wrong hand. Not very smart when you're that close to the batters and you can't play defense or acturately defend yourself. I would think the baseball forum would be able to answer this to the T.

OS:

Now you are screwing up baseball rules.

Baseball rules (NFHS, NCAA, and OBR) state that the pitcher must use the same thrower arm for a given batter. The pitcher cannot change arms during the middle of at bat, but does not use the same arm for every batter. The rules further state that the batter may change batter's box before every pitch as long as he does not delay the game (meaning the pitcher has not started his pitching motion). As the rules are now written it is difficult for the batter to delay the game if he makes his change immediately after each pitch.

You used the word "mockery." The word you wanted to use was "travesty," which is the word used in the rules and it refers to running the bases in reverse order.

Please go to the baseball forum and read it closely. You may learn something.

MTD, Sr.

[Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.]

Originally Posted by Old School

Actually he can change sides while the pitch is being delivered, accept he will be automatically out for stepping across the plate. There is a rule about the batter switching but it's more to not make a mockery of the game. I think that's right, you can only do it once, but I know you also can't do it after 2 strikes either.

Far as I know there is no restriction on the pitcher, but you have to remember, common sense. If the pitcher switches to the other arm, then he/she won't be able to play defense very well because the glove on the wrong hand. Not very smart when you're that close to the batters and you can't play defense or acturately defend yourself. I would think the baseball forum would be able to answer this to the T.

OS:

I really don't care about your opinion, I care about the rules being applied correctly. Something you have never cared to do.

MTD, Sr.

[Old School]

Originally Posted by Rich Fronheiser

This is stunning it's so wrong. In every possible way.

A pitcher can return to the mound once per inning if he stays in the game by playing another position. If in the AL, this kills the DH, BTW.

A manager cannot make two trips to the same batter in MLB. If he does after being warned, the manager is ejected and the pitcher must finish the at bat and then HE'S ejected.

You can pinch hit as often as you like. It's not unusual for a pinch hitter to be announced, followed by a pitching change, followed by a pinch hitter for the guy who hasn't even come up to the plate. But that's where it stops, as a pitcher must pitch until he completes an at bat or the side is retired.

Okay, I knew it was going to be confusing after I wrote it. What I meant is, once the at-bat starts, that's batter in the batters box and pitcher set on the rubber to deliver pinch, and the umpire says play ball. That batter can now, not be changed. Before the pitcher gets on the rubber and the umpire says play ball, he/she can be pulled back for another pinch hitter (PH). So it is possible to be in the batters box and before the umpire says play ball, be replaced by another pinch hitter. However, once the umpire says play ball, he/she can no longer be replaced at bat. Also, this sh!t gets deep, once the pinch batter is replaced before ever batting, in other words PH for a PH. The original PH is now out the game, can not return, can not return to play defense. He/she was replaced.

Different story for the pitcher. The pitcher can be 2-0 into the count and be replaced. But the batter can't be replaced if the count is 2-0. That's what I tried to say but in far less words and I did not do it justice. So in fact, the question was in reverse. The pitcher can be replaced at any time thru-out the count, the batter can not, unless of course for injury.

I once had a female who was still in her breast feeding months, breast started flowing milk at the cry of a baby in the crowd that was not hers. By rule, I let her be replaced at the count we where at. It hard to say all of this, and all that applies in a few short words.

[Old School]

Originally Posted by Rich Fronheiser

But that's where it stops, as a pitcher must pitch until he completes an at bat or the side is retired.

That is wrong, completely wrong. A pitcher can be replaced at any time. A batter cannot. I can be 3-2 full count and be replaced as the pitcher. I can be 1-0 or 0-2 into the count and be replaced as a pitcher. If I'm anywhere into the count as a batter, I must complete the at-bat.

[Mark Padgett]

Originally Posted by Old School

to deliver pinch,

I once had a female who was still in her breast feeding mouths, breast started flowing milk at the cry of a baby in the crowd that was not hers. By rule, I let her be replaced at the count we where at. It hard to say all of this, and all that applies in a few short words.

"pitch"
"months"
"were"
"It's"

"Views expressed here or the opinion of the author." Still incorrect grammar in the signature line - "or" instead of "are".

And this is the guy who denigrates (Old Drool, you can look that up) my spelling and grammar.

Ho-hum. Life goes on as usual.

[Old School]

Originally Posted by Mark Padgett

Look Old Drool, I'll match my spelling and grammar skills against yours any day of the week. Not only does your signature, shown above in red, not make any sense grammatically ("or" should be "are"), but "typos" (plural) SHOULDN'T HAVE AN APOSTROPHE!!!

Oh for goodness sake, you are right, this is so screwed up. Damn keyboard. Don't quite know what you mean by the apostrophe but this is bad. Between my keyboard and horrible grammar, I don't stand a chance. I should just give up but I'm too stupid to do that.

[johnny1784]

Originally Posted by Mark Padgett

Look Old Drool, I'll match my spelling and grammar skills against yours any day of the week. Not only does your signature, shown above in red, not make any sense grammatically ("or" should be "are"), but "typos" (plural) SHOULDN'T HAVE AN APOSTROPHE!!!

Is this a feud between loving officials?