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Old Tue Aug 21, 2007, 01:02pm
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Well there you have it. Someone please contact the NBA and tell them they will never beat the truth out of those casino workers and casino management would never cooperate with any investigation. Thanks for settling that one with this conclusive evidence Mark.

Hey...maybe Osama's been hiding at a blackjack table all these years? Sitting next to Jimmy Hoffa and Natalee Holloway?
You may be on to something there, Dan. I think you should whiz right down to Washington and suggest this to Robert Gates, or some other hot shot authority. You might get a medal or something.
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Old Tue Aug 21, 2007, 01:55pm
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You may be on to something there, Dan. I think you should whiz right down to Washington and suggest this to Robert Gates, or some other hot shot authority. You might get a medal or something.
Why would Robert Gates care where Natalee Holloway is?

I'm going straight to the top on this one: Geraldo Rivera!
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Old Tue Aug 21, 2007, 02:15pm
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Why would Robert Gates care where Natalee Holloway is?

I'm going straight to the top on this one: Geraldo Rivera!
Are you saying Natalee Holloway is in Al Capone's safe?
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Old Tue Aug 21, 2007, 02:19pm
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1. Don't you think any union would raise a stink if the employer was initiating an investigation based on hearsay? The fact that a guy who admits to betting on his own games and giving out confidential inside information to gamblers says these guys were in a casino is hearsay.
If he was there with them or saw them in a casino it's not hearsay.
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Old Tue Aug 21, 2007, 04:03pm
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A buddy of mine, his wife and 10 year old son Kyle have embarked on a year long journey around the world. Kyle has a blog where he is chronicling his experiences.

Kyle would love to have people visit his blog and sign his guestbook other than just his friends and family. If you get a chance please take a moment and check out:

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I looked at his blog. Is there really a place called "Phuket Island"? I hope his parents aren't encouraging him to say that out loud!
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Old Tue Aug 21, 2007, 04:24pm
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I looked at his blog. Is there really a place called "Phuket Island"? I hope his parents aren't encouraging him to say that out loud!
Phuket (pronounced poo-KETT) is a lovely island off the coast of southern Thailand. It's main tourist beaches were hit by the tsunami in December, 2004, but they suffered relatively few casualties compared to other spots.
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Are you saying Natalee Holloway is in Al Capone's safe?
No but DB Cooper might be in there counting his money.

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Old Tue Aug 21, 2007, 05:14pm
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No but DB Cooper might be in there counting his money.
You realize D.B. is somewhat of a cult hero here in the Portland area. In fact, some people swear they saw him pumping gas with Elvis somewhere in Idaho.

That reminds me of a joke (not that I'm not already enough off topic). Why is there going to be only 49 contestants in the next Miss America pageant?

Because no one wants to be "Miss I-da-ho".
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You might get a medal or something.
People have gotten them for much less recently.
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You're right. I'm guessing. And I'm guessing that casinos rely on a customer base that wants to maintain its privacy. The ability to maintain customer privacy is a big selling point for a lot of companies; banks, country clubs, etc. Maybe, if the NBA asks for a specific and limited period of time, a casino might oblige. But if they just want to mine what would amount to months of tape, I'd be pretty surprised if the casinos were willing to turn over the tapes.
Casino's #1 priority is $$$$. If someone is manipulating games to affect the win/loss situation of any bettable event, they'd certainly be interested in getting it resolved. The over/under, odds, etc. are set to maximize the money the casino makes (statistically) If someone is messing with the events, the casinos make less.
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Casino's #1 priority is $$$$. If someone is manipulating games to affect the win/loss situation of any bettable event, they'd certainly be interested in getting it resolved. The over/under, odds, etc. are set to maximize the money the casino makes (statistically) If someone is messing with the events, the casinos make less.
BTW - just for your information - the line is not set to indicate how many points the house thinks a team will win (or lose) by. It's set to get an equal amount of money bet on both teams. That's when the house makes the most profit regardless of who wins. When a lot is being bet on one team, they move the line to encourage more money to be bet on the other team.

The house actually makes its money on the "service charge".
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Casino's #1 priority is $$$$. If someone is manipulating games to affect the win/loss situation of any bettable event, they'd certainly be interested in getting it resolved. The over/under, odds, etc. are set to maximize the money the casino makes (statistically) If someone is messing with the events, the casinos make less.
Like I said previously; if it turns out that he is credibly charging other officials with doing things similar to what he has done, I agree the casinos are likely to give over the tapes.

However, initial reports were that he was accusing them of, gasp, gambling in casinos. That gambling reportedly does not include betting on basketball; nor do his charges include any sort of game fixing. It seems he's only accusing them of breaking the NBAs conduct code for officials. That's something the casinos couldn't care less about (Yes, Dan, I'm guessing here.)

If the casinos were to develop a reputation for allowing anyone with a contractual grudge (yes, including divorce lawyers) to effectively mine thousands of hours of tape, they'll lose business just as quickly. (Yes, Dan, I'm guessing.)
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If the casinos were to develop a reputation for allowing anyone with a contractual grudge (yes, including divorce lawyers) to effectively mine thousands of hours of tape, they'll lose business just as quickly.
You forgot to say you're guessing again.
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