Philosophical discussion - should NF and NCAA rules be the same?

[Old School]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

Nah, just caught off guard. His post was, up until that point, merely pointless. Kind of like watching a jogger running across a bridge when he suddenly changes direction and just runs off the side with his legs continuing to run all the way down to the river below.

Never seem this before, not even in a cartoon. Come on, you can do better....

[rainmaker]

Originally Posted by Old School

Never seem this before, not even in a cartoon. Come on, you can do better....

This is fun and all, but I"ve got a life. You can troll here by yourself, OS. Ta ta!

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by zebraman

I'm not sure that I really followed Old School's post. But if I did, I think he kind of agreed with me.

If he agreed with me, then I would like to completely take this whole thread back and retract everything I said. Keep the rules different. In fact, make even more differences!

I told you that you were coming at this issue from the wrong angle.

Peace

[Old School]

Originally Posted by rainmaker

This is fun and all, but I"ve got a life. You can troll here by yourself, OS. Ta ta!

Darn it, we where having so much fun....

[Odd Duck]

First, I really don't care which set of rules are used at the HS level. Just let me know the rules you want used and I will enforce them evenly to the best of my ability.

That being said, the only people (unless you include rec/summer ball) moving between rule sets are officials. I like others have seen officials kick a rule application because they were thinking one set and working a game govern by another set. Who's fault is that? It is certainly NOT the rules committee or governing boby...it is the official's. It will be extremely difficult, if not impossible, to get anyone to change their rule set just for the sake of change. If the official cannot keep his rules/mechanics straight then he or she is not as good as they thought and should give up one of the levels.

I really do not see how using the NCAA rules in high school makes the high school game better. If it doesn't make the game better, why change? Given the small percentage of officials that are constantly moving back and forth, it seems silly to make the changes simply to make their life easier.

[Old School]

Originally Posted by Odd Duck

First, I really don't care which set of rules are used at the HS level. Just let me know the rules you want used and I will enforce them evenly to the best of my ability.

That being said, the only people (unless you include rec/summer ball) moving between rule sets are officials. I like others have seen officials kick a rule application because they were thinking one set and working a game govern by another set. Who's fault is that? It is certainly NOT the rules committee or governing boby...it is the official's. It will be extremely difficult, if not impossible, to get anyone to change their rule set just for the sake of change

Or for the sake of the official.

If the official cannot keep his rules/mechanics straight then he or she is not as good as they thought and should give up one of the levels.

I really do not see how using the NCAA rules in high school makes the high school game better. If it doesn't make the game better, why change? Given the small percentage of officials that are constantly moving back and forth, it seems silly to make the changes simply to make their life easier.

You make some great points and thanks for sharing your thoughts. Others gave up, shut down mentally when I challenged their interlect. The only problem that I see is when you get to the upper level/final games and the talk about which officials to use surfaces. Let's get the best officials available is usually the thought process. Well the best officials availalbe tends to center mainly around who gets paid the most to work basketball which is college officials. If you're a HS ref and you ever watched a college ref work a state playoff game, you know what I getting at here. Then you have a mis-interp of a rule and all hell breaks lose. We get it both ways too, you know that. If you put a hs ref on a final game and they miss a call, should have went with the college guys.....

Somewhere down the line, I think we need to make it easier for the people who have to call the games so that you can truly use any official from any discipline. NCAA women to WNBA. Isn't that a pleasure to see. It helps the officials and the assigners and the game. To me it's a win-win but that's just my opinion.

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by Old School

Or for the sake of the official.

Others gave up, shut down mentally when I challenged their interlect.

LOL....my interlect can beat your interlect.

Well, I challenge your interlect to a drool.

Lah me......

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Old School

You make some great points and thanks for sharing your thoughts. Others gave up, shut down mentally when I challenged their interlect.

The only thing you've challenged here is logic itself. The problem is, it's like challenging gravity. You can't win.

[Mark Padgett]

Originally Posted by Old School

Others gave up, shut down mentally when I challenged their interlect.

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

LOL....my interlect can beat your interlect.

Well, I challenge your interlect to a drool.

Lah me......

Ya' can't argue with the guy. Remember - he's brillant!

[rainmaker]

Originally Posted by Old School

Others gave up, shut down mentally when I challenged their interlect.

Reminds me of a person who really actually said to me one time, "I used to have a problem with denial, but I don't think it's any big deal."

Thanks, OS. I haven't laughed that hard since the last time you posted!

edit to add: Thanks for pointing it out JR. A good night's sleep and I think I've shaken it...

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by rainmaker

Thanks, OS. I haven't last that hard since the last time you posted!

Good Lord, it's catching......

Old School Virus.....

There is no cure. It destroys your interlect.

[Old School]

Originally Posted by rainmaker

Reminds me of a person who really actually said to me one time, "I used to have a problem with denial, but I don't think it's any big deal."

Thanks, OS. I haven't last that hard since the last time you posted!

What would you guys do without me providing a little comic relief. We all need to laugh sometimes, even if it's at ourselves.

[Mark Padgett]

Originally Posted by Old School

We all need to laugh sometimes, even if it's at ourselves.

If that's the case, you must be hysterical 24/7.

[dblref]

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

LOL....my interlect can beat your interlect.

Well, I challenge your interlect to a drool.

Lah me......

Do you think my intellect can challenge his interlect?

[Mark Dexter]

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

Good Lord, it's catching......

Old School Virus.....

There is no cure. It destroys your interlect.

Luckily, there are treatment options you and your doctor can discuss.