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Old Sun Jul 22, 2007, 11:42am
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It was half-time during a girls varsity summer league game and the volunteer at the table requested my attention to ask if I could please refrain from using the word "Sub/s" when the girls were coming into the game...she said it's has a negative connotation for the players not currently in the game.

I asked what should I use and she said "ladies" or "lady" or "girls" or "girl"...etc. I smiled, walked away and during the next substitution I looked over at her (giving the correct sign) and yelled "SUBS!".

After the game I said "look, you need 5 players to start a game and 5 players to end a game...don't spend too much time worrying about something like this...".

I realize that I don't need to say anything during a substitution but half the time the sub/s are preoccupied with their coach or teammates and don't watch me..."Sub/s" seems to work well for me.
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Old Sun Jul 22, 2007, 12:11pm
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Really? Did you ask her if she wanted to turn off he score as well, so the losers wouldn't feel bad about themselves?
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Old Sun Jul 22, 2007, 12:47pm
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Really? Did you ask her if she wanted to turn off he score as well, so the losers wouldn't feel bad about themselves?
And, as someone else who shall remain nameless, once said - you shouldn't call any fouls on a player whose grandmother flew 500 miles to come to the game.
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Old Sun Jul 22, 2007, 01:38pm
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the volunteer at the table requested my attention to ask if I could please refrain from using the word "Sub/s" when the girls were coming into the game...she said it's has a negative connotation for the players not currently in the game.
I did a JV game once, where the home team didn't have their white jerseys for some reason. They wore dark, navy blue jerseys and the visitors wore a lighter blue. We informed the captains that would call the light blue "blue" and the dark blue "black".

After the captains went back to the benches, the home coach told me his players felt we were being racist by calling them "black", since most of the players on the team were black.

Looking back on it, I think I could have asked him for alternatives, but it was such a dumb complaint, we just blew it off and went with blue and black.
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Old Sun Jul 22, 2007, 02:47pm
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I did a JV game once, where the home team didn't have their white jerseys for some reason. They wore dark, navy blue jerseys and the visitors wore a lighter blue. We informed the captains that would call the light blue "blue" and the dark blue "black".

After the captains went back to the benches, the home coach told me his players felt we were being racist by calling them "black", since most of the players on the team were black.

Looking back on it, I think I could have asked him for alternatives, but it was such a dumb complaint, we just blew it off and went with blue and black.
About a hundred years ago, I played in an independent tournament and both teams had the same color gold jerseys. Our team was all white. Their team was all black. The officials called it black and white. Nobody had a problem with that.
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Old Sun Jul 22, 2007, 03:13pm
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About a hundred years ago, I played in an independent tournament and both teams had the same color gold jerseys. Our team was all white. Their team was all black. The officials called it black and white. Nobody had a problem with that.
If the refs had been really cool about it, they should have called the "white" team black and the "black" team white. I think, if the players had a good sense of humor, they would have laughed about it on every call. I'm assuming, of course, that there was nothing mean spirited about the refs decision.
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Old Sun Jul 22, 2007, 03:54pm
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If the refs had been really cool about it, they should have called the "white" team black and the "black" team white. I think, if the players had a good sense of humor, they would have laughed about it on every call. I'm assuming, of course, that there was nothing mean spirited about the refs decision.
It was simply a matter of necessity. I mean, what else are you gonna do?
Ah, independent tourneys..... Years ago, I got a phone call to come help in one. It had already started, and one official had not shown up. (imagine that) When I arrived, there was a women's game in progress. All 10 players had on white t shirts, don't think any had numbers. Very interesting.
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Old Sun Jul 22, 2007, 05:27pm
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It was simply a matter of necessity. I mean, what else are you gonna do?
Ah, independent tourneys..... Years ago, I got a phone call to come help in one. It had already started, and one official had not shown up. (imagine that) When I arrived, there was a women's game in progress. All 10 players had on white t shirts, don't think any had numbers. Very interesting.
Why didn't you call out the fouls by bra size? i.e.: "Holding on 36C." "Pushing on 34B." "Jiggling on 44DD."

BTW - I'd like to see the mechanic for that last one.
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Old Sun Jul 22, 2007, 05:57pm
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Why didn't you call out the fouls by bra size? i.e.: "Holding on 36C." "Pushing on 34B." "Jiggling on 44DD."
That would be discrimination on tits. I think that there's a law against that.

Or maybe it's one of the Constitutional Amendments.....

Or one of the Ten Commandments....

Or sumthin' like that anyway.....
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Old Sun Jul 22, 2007, 07:11pm
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It was simply a matter of necessity. I mean, what else are you gonna do?
Ah, independent tourneys..... Years ago, I got a phone call to come help in one. It had already started, and one official had not shown up. (imagine that) When I arrived, there was a women's game in progress. All 10 players had on white t shirts, don't think any had numbers. Very interesting.
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Old Sun Jul 22, 2007, 07:22pm
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Somehow, I knew that suggestion was going to be made.
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Old Sun Jul 22, 2007, 04:45pm
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I did a JV game once, where the home team didn't have their white jerseys for some reason. They wore dark, navy blue jerseys and the visitors wore a lighter blue. We informed the captains that would call the light blue "blue" and the dark blue "black".

After the captains went back to the benches, the home coach told me his players felt we were being racist by calling them "black", since most of the players on the team were black.

Looking back on it, I think I could have asked him for alternatives, but it was such a dumb complaint, we just blew it off and went with blue and black.
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Old Sun Jul 22, 2007, 04:49pm
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A long time ago, I was evaluating two guys working a JV or Freshman boys game. We were chatting at halftime, and I asked one of the guys (first year) about what the coach was asking him on a very obvious foul call. He told me the coach said, "you called that on him because he was a football player!"

We were laughing so hard, I forgot to tell them something I wanted them to keep in mind for the second half.
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Old Sun Jul 22, 2007, 06:22pm
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I did a JV game once, where the home team didn't have their white jerseys for some reason. They wore dark, navy blue jerseys and the visitors wore a lighter blue. We informed the captains that would call the light blue "blue" and the dark blue "black".

After the captains went back to the benches, the home coach told me his players felt we were being racist by calling them "black", since most of the players on the team were black.

Looking back on it, I think I could have asked him for alternatives, but it was such a dumb complaint, we just blew it off and went with blue and black.
As an official myself I probably would have used the same color "black" but after what the coach said, do you think it would have hurt to take another look at this? The point I am trying to make is, by changing to a color that may have made the players and coaches more comfortable, it also could have set a good tone to start this game.
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