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The defensive team violates. If the rule was written the way that you want it to be instead of the way that it is ,the offensive team would lose the arrow because of that defensive violation. That's the freaking advantage that the defense would gain by committing a violation. We've been trying to tell you that for freaking days. |
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1) Who gives a flying fuk what any coach thinks? How many times do we have to tell you that? And what moron other than you would think that kicking the damn ball is "good defense"? 2) I defy anyone to translate that into English. There will be a reward offered. 3) Um, no. If there's a violation on the offensive team during an AP throw-in before that throw-in ends, the offensive team will lose that AP arrow. Sez so right in the rules. Another guess gone bad. Does that make any since to you? 4) You're null and void. |
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Translation: Without the chicken there would be no egg! Or is it No egg begets no chicken? I'm so confused.... ![]() If we used OS way of thinking all AP's would be handled by a Check ball at the top of the key! ![]()
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If what you are advocating is a change in philosophy by the Fed., then you have a right to your opinion. We argue opinions on this site all the time, without ever getting personal. However, you communicate that the way we are to handle this situation is wrong, and that makes you wrong, per the rules. One quality of all successful officials is the ability to communicate. We have to constantly communicate effectively, whether it's to report a foul or violation with our signals, talk to a coach or player during a game, or even communicate with our supervisors and AD's during a season. Please work on your communication skills.
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OS: I cannot believe how you can believe what you write. Not a single thing you have written in this thread makes sense or conforms to the rules of the game. I have tried and tried to be nice and lead you down the correct path and give you good advice to make you a better basketball official but you refuse to listen. Please, please stop posting until you learn the rules of the game. If you do not want to follow my advice you will only continue to make a fool of yourself. MTD, Sr.
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That's cute. MTD, Sr.
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![]() Cool Hand Luke did NOT say "What we have here is a failure to communicate." The words were spoken by a prison guard captain in the movie. As for you, you're communicating your postion as best you can. Unfortunately, you're wrong, as always.
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You specifically wanted to stick to the NFHS Rules for now:
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You are not being rewarded with a new AP if the defence violates they are being punished under the rules of the violation - (By the way violations and fouls IMO_ are not normal basketball plays that is why they carry penalties.) |
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Remember why the AP was brought in, in the first place. Once I jump the ball, the held ball-jump ball (AP) situation is over, especially if there’s a violation. For instance, I toss the ball on the jump, it gets tipped, while trying to retrieve tip ball, B4 kicks the ball off A3 and then OOB. Violation Team B for the kick ball, team A gets the ball, Team b gets the arrow (AP). That is how it would be done if we jumped it. Now, we got something that doesn’t even resemble the jump ball situation. You smart brain wizards, and I’m disappointed Mark on the fact that you can’t see this, but you guys have outsmarted yourself. The payload to this new rule is too big a price to pay for me. Team A, getting multiple AP possessions because of a violation by the defense, is not the original intent of the rule and it is not going to fly. I’m telling you, the space shuttle is going to blow up on takeoff. Some smart-azz engineer has got this new idea and it does not coincide with the original design. It sounds good on paper but it ain’t gonna fly. It may be the rule, but it is not a good rule. We need to think a little bit harder about this one. Last edited by Old School; Wed Jun 13, 2007 at 11:04am. |
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