2007-08 Major Mechanics Changes

[JohnBark]

don't like the first change at all

and where are you going to stand if when the timeout is called and the ball is in front of the bench? i guess you become part of that team's huddle right? that will be fun if the coach is upset with you. and then what happens if the other team's coach has a question and you set the ball down and the other team breaks their huddle the kicks the ball acrossed the court? not to mention the cheerleaders mentioned in a previous post.

[Mark Dexter]

Originally Posted by JohnBark

and where are you going to stand if when the timeout is called and the ball is in front of the bench? i guess you become part of that team's huddle right?

Back up onto the court a few steps - no need to overthink the situation.

[JohnBark]

Originally Posted by Mark Dexter

Back up onto the court a few steps - no need to overthink the situation.

i know...but, then you aren't doing what the NFHS is asking you to do...LOL

overthinking the situation, who? me? hah...just having some fun...it's the off season!

[tomegun]

Can someone give some rationale for not liking, or caring about, the first mechanic change?
This has been a mechanic in college ball for a while and who cares! If the R wants to toss he/she will toss, if they don't they won't. If we (all) take pride in our toss, all officials will be prepared.

[JohnBark]

Originally Posted by tomegun

Can someone give some rationale for not liking, or caring about, the first mechanic change?
This has been a mechanic in college ball for a while and who cares! If the R wants to toss he/she will toss, if they don't they won't. If we (all) take pride in our toss, all officials will be prepared.

tomegun, i asked that of the veteran guys that have asked me to work with them this past year...every time they ask me to work with them last season, i tossed...finally i asked and the only thing i could come up with is they don't like giving the pre-game speak and risking looking bad with a poor toss...personally, i don't mind doing the pre-game speech or tossing...i've been luckily in my short career of officiating of NOT having one blown dead for a retoss...i have blown 2 dead in the same game for a NOT SO VERTICAL toss...i was laughing so hard because the 1st one was tossed to the visitor's side of the court and then my partner over corrected and tossed it to the home's side of the court before getting it straight...that being said, I would say they just don't want to look bad for a poor toss or give a bad pre-game speech...just my 2 cents...!

[BktBallRef]

Originally Posted by JohnBark

don't like the first change at all

and where are you going to stand if when the timeout is called and the ball is in front of the bench? i guess you become part of that team's huddle right? that will be fun if the coach is upset with you. and then what happens if the other team's coach has a question and you set the ball down and the other team breaks their huddle the kicks the ball acrossed the court? not to mention the cheerleaders mentioned in a previous post.

Good grief.

Some people can find a problem anywhere they look.

It says you "may" do it. It does NOT say you "have" to do it.

The mechanic for standing out on the floor away, from the bench, when the ball is going to be put in play in front of the bench has not changed.

[JohnBark]

Originally Posted by BktBallRef

Good grief.

Some people can find a problem anywhere they look.

It says you "may" do it. It does NOT say you "have" to do it.

The mechanic for standing out on the floor away, from the bench, when the ball is going to be put in play in front of the bench has not changed.

are you just referring to me? or the others that don't like the changes too?

Good grief indeed!

[BktBallRef]

Originally Posted by JohnBark

are you just referring to me? or the others that don't like the changes too?

Good grief indeed!

Ah.....who did I quote?

The rule has nothing to do with standing in front of the bench. Did we stand in front of the bench last year? No. We moved onto the floor away from the bench. What do you see in the original post that says that's changed? Where does it say you have to put the ball down before going to speak to the opposing coach?

Sad day.

[JohnBark]

Originally Posted by BktBallRef

Ah.....who did I quote?

The rule has nothing to do with standing in front of the bench. Did we stand in front of the bench last year? No. We moved onto the floor away from the bench. What do you see in the original post that says that's changed? Where does it say you have to put the ball down before going to speak to the opposing coach?

Sad day.

10,000+ post to just over 100 post...hmmm...as Rut mentioned you never know which one of you vets is going to ding a younger guy for something like "MAY" and that something you "MAY" not like might be something you vets already do but just want to ding a younger guy, just because you have more experience doesn't make it right...i guess i need a few more than 100+ posts to get a "little" respect from vets like you...

sad day indeed!!!

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by JohnBark

10,000+ post to just over 100 post...hmmm...as Rut mentioned you never know which one of you vets is going to ding a younger guy for something like "MAY" and that something you "MAY" not like might be something you vets already do but just want to ding a younger guy, just because you have more experience doesn't make it right...i guess i need a few more than 100+ posts to get a "little" respect from vets like you...

Well, I don't have a schnauzer in this particular dog fight but.......the way it works here is that you get respect for what you post, not the number of times that you post.

Back to our regular programming.....

[JohnBark]

predictable!

[BktBallRef]

Originally Posted by JohnBark

10,000+ post to just over 100 post...hmmm...as Rut mentioned you never know which one of you vets is going to ding a younger guy for something like "MAY" and that something you "MAY" not like might be something you vets already do but just want to ding a younger guy, just because you have more experience doesn't make it right...i guess i need a few more than 100+ posts to get a "little" respect from vets like you...

sad day indeed!!!

It makes no difference to me whether you just got here or you've been here 10 years. The info presented in your post was incorrect. Don't be so sensitive about it. It's just discussion.

[JohnBark]

Originally Posted by BktBallRef

It makes no difference to me whether you just got here or you've been here 10 years. The info presented in your post was incorrect. Don't be so sensitive about it. It's just discussion.

You are right...