Block Charge

[All_Heart]

Originally Posted by BktBallRef

And going to the AP was wrong.

The UCLA player was still holding the ball after the contact.

It should have been UCLA's ball, POI

It was the Florida player on offense.

[All_Heart]

According to this Play-By-Play UCLA started the second half with the AP arrow. So it looks like they went to the arrow b/c after this play the arrow is pointing to UCLA. Good catch Mark! The shot clock should not have been reset.

[Scrapper1]

Originally Posted by All_Heart

So it looks like they went to the arrow b/c after this play the arrow is pointing to UCLA. The shot clock should not have been reset.

The issue is not so much the shot clock as the POI. They never should've gone to the arrow in the first place, because there was still team control. The correct POI was a throw-in to the team in control (and no reset); not the arrow.

[All_Heart]

Originally Posted by Scrapper1

The issue is not so much the shot clock as the POI. They never should've gone to the arrow in the first place, because there was still team control. The correct POI was a throw-in to the team in control (and no reset); not the arrow.

I know that is what I said in post #3. I was just pointing out that the arrow had been changed so it is clear that they went with the AP, which is incorrect.

[BktBallRef]

Originally Posted by All_Heart

According to this Play-By-Play UCLA started the second half with the AP arrow. So it looks like they went to the arrow b/c after this play the arrow is pointing to UCLA. Good catch Mark! The shot clock should not have been reset.

The clock should not have been reset and the AP should not have changed. It should have been Florida's ball for a throw-in based on team control, POI.

[All_Heart]

Originally Posted by BktBallRef

The clock should not have been reset and the AP should not have changed. It should have been Florida's ball for a throw-in based on team control, POI.

Did I type something incorrectly? This is what I'm saying!

[TRef21]

Originally Posted by All_Heart

Did I type something incorrectly? This is what I'm saying!

Does anyone have there NCAA 2006 rule book? I know that exact play is in there. Can give a reference in the 2007 book with that rule. I have heard different things. Some say AP others say POI.

[Mark Dexter]

Originally Posted by TRef21

Does anyone have there NCAA 2006 rule book? I know that exact play is in there. Can give a reference in the 2007 book with that rule. I have heard different things. Some say AP others say POI.

Rule 4
Section 51. Point of Interruption
Art. 1. Point of interruption is a procedure used to resume play because of:
d. A double personal or simultaneous personal foul, as in Rules 4-26.10
and 4-26.16.

[All_Heart]

PG 177 Section 24. Summary - Administration of Double Fouls

Double Personal Foul - Resumption of Play: Point of Interruption

[Mountaineer]

Ahhh, but wasn't it just so refreshing to hear Billy Packer stammer over the fact that they did that because each official stuck to his guns and felt he had the right call?? He's such a moron!

[Adam]

Originally Posted by TRef21

Does anyone have there NCAA 2006 rule book? I know that exact play is in there. Can give a reference in the 2007 book with that rule. I have heard different things. Some say AP others say POI.

It's always POI. Sometimes, the POI is AP (when there's no team control).

[WIRef]

Just one question regarding this play that I have not seen any discussion on yet. Why did they opt to go with the double foul, instead of deciding which call to go with? I do not have a lot of experience in 3-man, but I have learned that there are more distinct coverage areas than in 2-man. From what I can remember of the play, I think the "C" should have had the call, as the play came from his area, and the "L" was on opposite side baseline. I do not think much of Billy Packer's explanation. Is is possible that the officials decided that in fairness to both teams they would go double foul? That seems to be a bail out for the officials. Any thoughts on this?

[BktBallRef]

You are correct, Florida was on offense.

But they did go to the AP arrow.

Before the play, Florida had the AP.

After the play, Florida got the ball, UCLA had the arrow and the shot clock was reset to 35.