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Old Sat Mar 31, 2007, 09:25pm
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It just happened the scenario we talked about. Double foul and AP
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Old Sat Mar 31, 2007, 09:33pm
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And going to the AP was wrong.

The UCLA player was still holding the ball after the contact.

It should have been UCLA's ball, POI
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Old Sat Mar 31, 2007, 09:35pm
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Are you sure that they went to the AP Arrow? It should have been POI which would have been Florida's ball. I will rewind and see who started the 2nd half with the ball.
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Old Sat Mar 31, 2007, 09:36pm
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The shot clock was reset to 35 when Florida got the inbound. Maybe they thought the shot was off when the contact occurred.
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Old Sat Mar 31, 2007, 09:39pm
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And going to the AP was wrong.

The UCLA player was still holding the ball after the contact.

It should have been UCLA's ball, POI
It was the Florida player on offense.
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Old Sat Mar 31, 2007, 09:43pm
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According to this Play-By-Play UCLA started the second half with the AP arrow. So it looks like they went to the arrow b/c after this play the arrow is pointing to UCLA. Good catch Mark! The shot clock should not have been reset.
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Old Sat Mar 31, 2007, 09:48pm
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You are correct, Florida was on offense.

But they did go to the AP arrow.

Before the play, Florida had the AP.

After the play, Florida got the ball, UCLA had the arrow and the shot clock was reset to 35.
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Old Sat Mar 31, 2007, 09:49pm
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So it looks like they went to the arrow b/c after this play the arrow is pointing to UCLA. The shot clock should not have been reset.
The issue is not so much the shot clock as the POI. They never should've gone to the arrow in the first place, because there was still team control. The correct POI was a throw-in to the team in control (and no reset); not the arrow.
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Old Sat Mar 31, 2007, 09:49pm
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According to this Play-By-Play UCLA started the second half with the AP arrow. So it looks like they went to the arrow b/c after this play the arrow is pointing to UCLA. Good catch Mark! The shot clock should not have been reset.
The clock should not have been reset and the AP should not have changed. It should have been Florida's ball for a throw-in based on team control, POI.
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Old Sat Mar 31, 2007, 09:52pm
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The issue is not so much the shot clock as the POI. They never should've gone to the arrow in the first place, because there was still team control. The correct POI was a throw-in to the team in control (and no reset); not the arrow.
I know that is what I said in post #3. I was just pointing out that the arrow had been changed so it is clear that they went with the AP, which is incorrect.
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Old Sat Mar 31, 2007, 09:53pm
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The clock should not have been reset and the AP should not have changed. It should have been Florida's ball for a throw-in based on team control, POI.
Did I type something incorrectly? This is what I'm saying!
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Old Sat Mar 31, 2007, 10:04pm
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Did I type something incorrectly? This is what I'm saying!
Does anyone have there NCAA 2006 rule book? I know that exact play is in there. Can give a reference in the 2007 book with that rule. I have heard different things. Some say AP others say POI.
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Old Sat Mar 31, 2007, 10:11pm
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Does anyone have there NCAA 2006 rule book? I know that exact play is in there. Can give a reference in the 2007 book with that rule. I have heard different things. Some say AP others say POI.
Rule 4
Section 51. Point of Interruption
Art. 1. Point of interruption is a procedure used to resume play because of:
d. A double personal or simultaneous personal foul, as in Rules 4-26.10
and 4-26.16.
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PG 177 Section 24. Summary - Administration of Double Fouls

Double Personal Foul - Resumption of Play: Point of Interruption
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Old Sat Mar 31, 2007, 10:27pm
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Ahhh, but wasn't it just so refreshing to hear Billy Packer stammer over the fact that they did that because each official stuck to his guns and felt he had the right call?? He's such a moron!
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