Woman's College Mechanics

[rockyroad]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

What is not a CCA Women's Mechanic? You just said the very same thing I did. Your response to SeanFitzRef just confirms that. Am I missing something here?

Peace

Now I'm confused too...someone posted that they always want to rotate so that the C is opposite the table for last second shot coverage. I thought you agreed with that and said that it was coming from NCAA-W...I disagreed that it came from there...then you asked what I disagreed with and I told you what I disagreed with and then you asked if you were missing something so I posted this reply...and like I said, I'm confused now, too...

Bottom line - C has last second shot, but there is absolutely no need or reason to rotate so that the C will be opposite the table...

At least I think that's what we were talking about...I think I need a vacation. Maybe I should go on a cruise this weekend or something!

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by rockyroad

Now I'm confused too...someone posted that they always want to rotate so that the C is opposite the table for last second shot coverage. I thought you agreed with that and said that it was coming from NCAA-W...I disagreed that it came from there...then you asked what I disagreed with and I told you what I disagreed with and then you asked if you were missing something so I posted this reply...and like I said, I'm confused now, too...

What I was agreeing to is the fact that the C is the "calling official" for the last second shot. Many HS officials that I have worked with are adamant to allow this to happen in HS games. Since NF Mechanics say the "opposite table official" are to call the last second shot, I see many officials just move regardless of where the ball is at to make the C the person who is opposite the table. I was not saying that this complete procedure was what the CCA Women's mechanics do. Just making a comparison as to why officials do this. This is in no way a CCA Men's Mechanic and in no way is the NF Official's Manual mechanics. This is a hybrid drawn up by many officials that use work mostly CCA games. Also to be fair there are some that do not work Women's NCAA Basketball that advocates this procedure. I personally find it a silly mechanic and unnecessary, but that is because contact or a violation or foul is much more likely than having to rule on a last second shot. I only had one or two times this past year where I even had to think about ruling on a last second shot, but many plays where contact or a violation took place near the end of the game.

Originally Posted by rockyroad

Bottom line - C has last second shot, but there is absolutely no need or reason to rotate so that the C will be opposite the table...

At least I think that's what we were talking about...I think I need a vacation. Maybe I should go on a cruise this weekend or something!

I was originally responding to something Bob J said. I was only referring to the aspect of the C always having the last second shot. I was not getting into all the parts of the conversation that were had before. That probably is where the confusion came in. I am not blameless in the confusion.

Peace

[M&M Guy]

I think we should all go on a cruise to eliminate all of our confusion(s).

Know of any good deals, rocky?

[rockyroad]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

What I was agreeing to is the fact that the C is the "calling official" for the last second shot. Many HS officials that I have worked with are adamant to allow this to happen in HS games. Since NF Mechanics say the "opposite table official" are to call the last second shot, I see many officials just move regardless of where the ball is at to make the C the person who is opposite the table. I was not saying that this complete procedure was what the CCA Women's mechanics do. Just making a comparison as to why officials do this. This is in no way a CCA Men's Mechanic and in no way is the NF Official's Manual mechanics. This is a hybrid drawn up by many officials that use work mostly CCA games. Also to be fair there are some that do not work Women's NCAA Basketball that advocates this procedure. I personally find it a silly mechanic and unnecessary, but that is because contact or a violation or foul is much more likely than having to rule on a last second shot. I only had one or two times this past year where I even had to think about ruling on a last second shot, but many plays where contact or a violation took place near the end of the game.



I was originally responding to something Bob J said. I was only referring to the aspect of the C always having the last second shot. I was not getting into all the parts of the conversation that were had before. That probably is where the confusion came in. I am not blameless in the confusion.

Peace

So basically what you are saying is that we were both saying the same thing all along...I can live with that.

And no, M&M - don't know nothing about no stinking cruises...

[JRutledge]

I do not think we are disagreeing as much as it appeared. I think I did not make my disagreement as clear and that is the confusion. I was making a different point than you were apparently.

Peace