Uniform Technical Foul

[JohnnyKGB]

I was under the impression that you may not remove your jersey at any time during a game. No matter whether you are participating, on the bench, or fouled out. Someone please enlighten me, I have always understood that removing your jersey was a technical foul.

Thanks in advance.

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by JohnnyKGB

I was under the impression that you may not remove your jersey at any time during a game. No matter whether you are participating, on the bench, or fouled out. Someone please enlighten me, I have always understood that removing your jersey was a technical foul.

Thanks in advance.

Correct, under high school rules, if the jersey is removed within the visual confines of the playing area.

Not correct for other rulesets, including NCAA Mens. If you're thinking of the Memphis player that fouled out tonight, that's legal.

[JohnnyKGB]

Thanks for the clarification. I think that it was out of line and there should be definative uniform rules. Things are getting out of hand at the college level.

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by JohnnyKGB

Thanks for the clarification. I think that it was out of line and there should be definative uniform rules. Things are getting out of hand at the college level.

Johnny, there are definitive NCAA Mens rules. And the players are following them.

I'd hardly call a player taking his shirt off on the bench after fouling out, and then sitting there in an UnderArmour teeshirt something that was "getting out of hand". Iow, no big deal imo.

[jkjenning]

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

Not correct for other rulesets, including NCAA Mens. If you're thinking of the Memphis player that fouled out tonight, that's legal.

Thanks, I wondered about that, too.

[JohnnyKGB]

I had no interest either way in the game. I just dont understand why he was the only TEAM member that felt he needed to remove his jersey after fouling out. It is a team sport, so why the need to be an individual?

[DC_Ref12]

Originally Posted by JohnnyKGB

I had no interest either way in the game. I just dont understand why he was the only TEAM member that felt he needed to remove his jersey after fouling out. It is a team sport, so why the need to be an individual?

So should a basket only count if all 5 players release it at the same time?

[MajorCord]

Originally Posted by DC_Ref12

So should a basket only count if all 5 players release it at the same time?

That would be a 15 point play if it was a 3-pointer!

[jkjenning]

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

Correct, under high school rules, if the jersey is removed within the visual confines of the playing area.

I guess an official would have to observe a HS player remove his jersey? If A6 fouls out, then is observed w/o his/her jersey at the next TO, do you have to have definite knowledge that it was removed w/in the visual confines of the playing area?

[JohnnyKGB]

Certainly a different way to look at it. But no matter what the reply is, it's bad behavior that with only escalate when it is not checked. If you over look the small stuff, all of a sudden your dealing with bigger issues.

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by jkjenning

I guess an official would have to observe a HS player remove his jersey? If A6 fouls out, then is observed w/o his/her jersey at the next TO, do you have to have definite knowledge that it was removed w/in the visual confines of the playing area?

You guess wrong.

When in doubt, read the rule book. It's kind of amazing what you can find in them.

The answer to the above is in POE 1A on last year's NFHS rulebook. That states "The committee expects jerseys to be worn properly and remain on".

[Adam]

Originally Posted by JohnnyKGB

I had no interest either way in the game. I just dont understand why he was the only TEAM member that felt he needed to remove his jersey after fouling out. It is a team sport, so why the need to be an individual?

That's a coaching issue/question. Ask his coach why he puts up with it.

[JohnnyKGB]

You are correct. I am satisfied. Thabks all for the input.

[Mark Padgett]

Originally Posted by MajorCord

That would be a 15 point play if it was a 3-pointer!

And how many possible points if all five were the victims of five multiple fouls each at exactly the same time?

[rainmaker]

Originally Posted by JohnnyKGB

Certainly a different way to look at it. But no matter what the reply is, it's bad behavior that with only escalate when it is not checked. If you over look the small stuff, all of a sudden your dealing with bigger issues.

Not necessarily true. It seems to be a truism, but I don't think it's always quite this clearcut. Sometimes ignoring, or not making an issue of, something bad can be the best way to bring it to an end.