A&M/Memphis finish

[sseltser]

For what its worth:

Suppose a player on Memphis saves the ball between the whistle and when it was caught oob. In this case, do we wait until 3.1 has elapsed and say the game is over. I mean we have to wait until the ball touches oob. What youre saying (to igore the whistle) is rediculous. You must time from when the ball was touched until either:
(a) the ball 'hit' the line (if that is what the calling official ruled); or
(b) the whistle (if he mistakenly blew his whistle).
Waiting for it to hit the table is NOT an option.

[JoeTheRef]

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

Sigh....

Another fanboy with a 61" tv sitting on his fat butt in his la-z-boy that thinks he knows more that 4 of the best officials in the country. That's four officials who have a monitor and instant replay too.

Every year......

Yes, coach. The mean ol' officials screwed your team. They did it deliberately too. Happy now?

Uh, you forgot that it was an HDTV as well....

[BktBallRef]

Originally Posted by Coach Jinx

As soon as I saw them taking so long looking at the monitor & saw the R with a stop watch I knew they were going to do what they did, I was just hoping they didn't.

Why is it a bad move to take the proper amount of time off the clock? How is it fair to the defense to only take off a .2 or .3?

It was a very bad move by the R for several reasons. I know people are going to defend him but it was a BAD call to take away the 1.1 instead of maybe .2 or 3.

Would you like to bet that he'll be working on Saturday or Sunday?

First the T blew the whistle & pointed at the line saying he had the ball touched & then hitting the line making it out of bounds. You can see him pointing at the ground clear as day.

You heard the whistle?

Next just like in football you need a angle that is looking straight down the line to say for sure the ball did or did not hit the line. I watched the game on a 61 HDTV DVR played it over & over frame by frame & would not put my life on it that the ball hit inbounds.

Neither would I. i would make such a silly statement. But the ball definitely hit inbounds. it wasn't even close.

Take .2 off & know one on either team is going to say a word about it.

Is that how you make calls, based on whether someone is going to say something or not?

The clock didn't properly start. The officials must determine how much time lapsed from the time it was touched inbounds until it was touched OOB. That's what they did. The rest is just BS. I promise, Hank Nihols will back the call.

[Dan_ref]

Originally Posted by Coach Jinx

Take .2 off & know one on either team is going to say a word about it.

errrrr...that would be no one, right?

btw, this is the least wrong thing you've written in your post. Nice job.

[Dan_ref]

Originally Posted by sseltser

For what its worth:

Suppose a player on Memphis saves the ball between the whistle and when it was caught oob.

1. What whistle?

2. In any event it didn't happen your way.

[jimpiano]

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

Sigh....

Another fanboy with a 61" tv sitting on his fat butt in his la-z-boy that thinks he knows more that 4 of the best officials in the country. That's four officials who have a monitor and instant replay too.

Every year......

Yes, coach. The mean ol' officials screwed your team. They did it deliberately too. Happy now?

So, everyone who asks for clarification gets your insults?

No one said the officials were wrong,,,we just asked for the rule book citation...
You have yet to cite it.

[sseltser]

If you didn't hear the whistle, then you could ask one of the many people who heard it.

Secondly, just because it didn't happen that way doesn't mean it's not relevant. If he blows his whistle but it bounds up in the air for 5 seconds, do we call the game over?

The whistle must cause the 'manual' timing to end. I don't see how you can time beyond that whistle.

[Dan_ref]

Originally Posted by sseltser

The whistle must cause the 'manual' timing to end. I don't see how you can time beyond that whistle.

I didnt hear a whistle nor did I see any official indicate the clock should not have started. In any event the clock did not start and the rules permit the timing error to be corrected with a monitor.

Like it or not there it is. :shrug:

[Adam]

Originally Posted by jimpiano

So, everyone who asks for clarification gets your insults?

No one said the officials were wrong,,,we just asked for the rule book citation...
You have yet to cite it.

"It was a bad call" is not asking for clarification. "Others may defend him but...." is not asking for clarification.

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by jimpiano

So, everyone who asks for clarification gets your insults?

No one said the officials were wrong,,,we just asked for the rule book citation...
You have yet to cite it.

No, you moronic, once-a-year, obnoxious fanboys get my insults.

It has been cited. NCAA rule 14-11-3. Look it up.

[Coach Jinx]

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

Sigh....

Another fanboy with a 61" tv sitting on his fat butt in his la-z-boy that thinks he knows more that 4 of the best officials in the country. That's four officials who have a monitor and instant replay too.

Every year......

Yes, coach. The mean ol' officials screwed your team. They did it deliberately too. Happy now?

Nice try lil guy. First I'm not a fan of either team. I love the game of basketball(played D1)but think the officiating of the games are not very good. I have my name as coach so I can argue back & fourth with clowns like you. I am a varsity baseball coach but spend July thru Dec. officiating the best game in the world with the best OFFICIALS in the world FOOTBALL. They watched that replay on a 10in. monitor without a good angle. Also you fools keep saying the clock didn't start...HOW do you know for sure it didn't start. What if it was at 3.197 & went to 3.102. You can start & stop the clock without a tength going off. Strange but possible. If anyone wants to argue anymore I'll be at MSU @ Honigs clinic next month, I'll be the best looking guy there.

[DC_Ref12]

Originally Posted by Coach Jinx

Nice try lil guy. First I'm not a fan of either team. I love the game of basketball(played D1)but think the officiating of the games are not very good. I have my name as coach so I can argue back & fourth with clowns like you. I am a varsity baseball coach but spend July thru Dec. officiating the best game in the world with the best OFFICIALS in the world FOOTBALL. They watched that replay on a 10in. monitor without a good angle. Also you fools keep saying the clock didn't start...HOW do you know for sure it didn't start. What if it was at 3.197 & went to 3.102. You can start & stop the clock without a tength going off. Strange but possible. If anyone wants to argue anymore I'll be at MSU @ Honigs clinic next month, I'll be the best looking guy there.

Don't you understand that the angle makes NO DIFFERENCE because the officials are not allowed to rule on a violation on replay?

[MJT]

Originally Posted by Coach Jinx

HOW do you know for sure it didn't start. What if it was at 3.197 & went to 3.102. You can start & stop the clock without a tength going off. Strange but possible.

You take any stop watch you can, and try it, you cannot do it. You will NOT be able to start and stop it in less than .1 seconds. And I am talking about a stopwatch, in which you are trying to do it as fast as you can, not starting it without the intent of stopping it again with a thing you have to push down and then back up. The clock DID NOT START!!!!

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by Coach Jinx

Nice try lil guy. First I'm not a fan of either team. I love the game of basketball(played D1)but think the officiating of the games are not very good. I have my name as coach so I can argue back & fourth with clowns like you. I am a varsity baseball coach but spend July thru Dec. officiating the best game in the world with the best OFFICIALS in the world FOOTBALL. They watched that replay on a 10in. monitor without a good angle. Also you fools keep saying the clock didn't start...HOW do you know for sure it didn't start. What if it was at 3.197 & went to 3.102. You can start & stop the clock without a tength going off. Strange but possible. If anyone wants to argue anymore I'll be at MSU @ Honigs clinic next month, I'll be the best looking guy there.

Great. Now piss off until next month, fanboy.

You must be just one big bundle of integrity as a supposed official in another sport to publicly dump on basketball officials without ever officiating a damn basketball game in your life or having a clue what the rules say about the correction of timing errors.

"I'm a baseball coach and a football official. That makes me an expert on officiating college basketball".

Well, you're just another sorry clown whining because he thinks that his team got screwed by the mean old officials. Every year you and your ilk show up here, just like freaking locusts.

[BktBallRef]

Originally Posted by Coach Jinx

HOW do you know for sure it didn't start. What if it was at 3.197 & went to 3.102. You can start & stop the clock without a tength going off. Strange but possible. If anyone wants to argue anymore I'll be at MSU @ Honigs clinic next month, I'll be the best looking guy there.

Please, don't insult those of us who also officiate football.

"Mr. Timer, did you start the clock?"

"No, I didn't."

How hard is that?

The clock didn't start. Trust me. I know.