Fiba

[26 Year Gap]

Originally Posted by canuckref

save your thrusts and parries for you leotarded fencing matches.

irony would be ia a american fiba official does a game at the international level when the usa loses (oh wait, this happens all the time now )

perhaps the name of the forum should more accurately be called "american refs who only travel in the tri state area to ref a limited set of rules loosely based on nhfs/ncaa, but we make changes wherever we feel like rules don't adhere to our ball size and intelligence"

just a friendly suggestion!

There are several tri-state areas...which one are you referring to?

[Mark Padgett]

Originally Posted by 26 Year Gap

There are several tri-state areas...which one are you referring to?

Around here, it would be Oregon, Washington and Dieblersylvania.

[canuckrefguy]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

Dude, I was just asking.

You being an experienced, knowledgeable official, I was just surprised that you would even ask that.

People have this idea that FIBA rules is like playing on Mars or something - when in fact, it's still basketball....fouls, travelling, double-dribble - most of the basic, major stuff is the same.

[Mark Padgett]

Originally Posted by canuckrefguy

People have this idea that FIBA rules is like playing on Mars or something -

Not Mars - France.

[canuckrefguy]

Originally Posted by Mark Padgett

Not Mars - France.

[NICK]

There is no "cylinder" above the ring. As soon as the ball touches the ring, or sits on the ring, it is anybodys ball to rebound or tip in. I have seen so many American players hesitant in rebounding or tipping the ball when it is in this cylinder when playing to Fiba rules.....cheers

[Adam]

Originally Posted by canuckrefguy

You being an experienced, knowledgeable official, I was just surprised that you would even ask that.

People have this idea that FIBA rules is like playing on Mars or something - when in fact, it's still basketball....fouls, travelling, double-dribble - most of the basic, major stuff is the same.

Fair enough point. I thought I knew the answer, because it doesn't make sense to me to start the count before the ball is in bounds. But, before I read it in this thread, I would have never guessed you wouldn't start the count over completely in this situation. Therefore, I thought it was at least worth asking the question to clarify for me. I didn't mean to insinuate that FIBA rules were written by Vulcans.

[Adam]

I think I remember hearing that in international rules, "alley oop" plays are illegal also. Is this true? Does a player who jumps to catch a pass near the rim have to come down before shooting?
Note, this could easily be another bit of misinformation I gleaned from clueless announcers watching Olympic basketball growing up.

[canuckrefguy]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

I think I remember hearing that in international rules, "alley oop" plays are illegal also. Is this true? Does a player who jumps to catch a pass near the rim have to come down before shooting?
Note, this could easily be another bit of misinformation I gleaned from clueless announcers watching Olympic basketball growing up.

For a while, FIBA outlawed the alley-oop - but legalized it about 15 years ago.

[The Canuck]

Originally Posted by Mark Padgett

OK - next time your country is at war, you can have just the French on your side.

Our country goes to war?!

[eg-italy]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

Fair enough point. I thought I knew the answer, because it doesn't make sense to me to start the count before the ball is in bounds. But, before I read it in this thread, I would have never guessed you wouldn't start the count over completely in this situation. Therefore, I thought it was at least worth asking the question to clarify for me. I didn't mean to insinuate that FIBA rules were written by Vulcans.

The eight seconds in the backcourt rule was modified three years ago, making it similar to the shot clock rule. The eight second count in the backcourt used to restart from 8 every time a player started team control of a live ball in the backcourt. Now the count is not reset when the ball becomes dead for going OOB or for a jump ball situation (held ball, double foul) if the same team maintains the possession (because of the AP arrow, of course, in the latter case).

[Mark Padgett]

Originally Posted by The Canuck

Our country goes to war?!

Yeah - don't you remember back in 1873 when you were invaded by Liechtenstein? You guys fought for about an hour and a half.

[K-Bach]

Originally Posted by Mark Padgett

Yeah - don't you remember back in 1873 when you were invaded by Liechtenstein? You guys fought for about an hour and a half.

I thought you guys were referring to the burning of the White House by drunken Canadians during the War of 1812 "...and the rockets red glare..."

[26 Year Gap]

ok, this thread has run its course.

[canuckrefguy]

Originally Posted by 26 Year Gap

ok, this thread has run its course.

Well it had until you bumped it....

....oh wait.....




....dang.